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Is is plausible that we could have neuronal maps of human brains without mind uploading being possible?

Let's look at a far simpler organism for a moment. C. Elegans. Specifically the adult hermaphrodite: 952 cells including 302 neurons, 95 muscle cells, and a bunch of other stuff. It also has a bunch ...
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Is is plausible that we could have neuronal maps of human brains without mind uploading being possible?

Metaphysics 101 Depending on your setting, and the nature of the world that you are building you could simply handwave this away using metaphysics as an explanation. EG, that scientists have tired for ...
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Is is plausible that we could have neuronal maps of human brains without mind uploading being possible?

As many people have illustrated in this thread, there are many possible reasons. However, the core issue that arises before even considering technical difficulties, is the following: creating a ...
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Is is plausible that we could have neuronal maps of human brains without mind uploading being possible?

Heisenberg and chaos You are measuring things at molecular scale where quantum effects start to manifest - indeed, there are some biological processes, like photosynthesis, that depend on it. So, you ...
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Is is plausible that we could have neuronal maps of human brains without mind uploading being possible?

“Mind” is a function of a body, not just a brain An isolated brain doesn’t work, it’s intrinsically connected to the body, not just by neurones but by blood and all the weird and wonderful mix of ...
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Is is plausible that we could have neuronal maps of human brains without mind uploading being possible?

The human mind is WAY more than just a set of neural pathways in the brain Science has already proven that that the human body has all sorts of systems all over the body and within the molecular level ...
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Is is plausible that we could have neuronal maps of human brains without mind uploading being possible?

This depends on your definition of "complete scan." There's a lot more going on in a brain than just the connectome. To reproduce a person's complete personality, you would need to scan a ...
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Is is plausible that we could have neuronal maps of human brains without mind uploading being possible?

Computers are not brains, and mood Brains and minds are often compared to each other. This has evolved from long ago, where we tried to find approximations to make sense of it all. We've come a long ...
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Is is plausible that we could have neuronal maps of human brains without mind uploading being possible?

Due to recent real world progress, I’d say your three options are focusing on being unable to train the brain to an adult state, uncertainty over how the different parts of the brain interact with ...
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Is is plausible that we could have neuronal maps of human brains without mind uploading being possible?

The idea which came to mind thinking about this is that our brains do not only consist of the neuronal connections and weights, but surely also the pattern of neurons which are currently firing. True,...
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Is is plausible that we could have neuronal maps of human brains without mind uploading being possible?

Yes, and you don't need to justify it with anything. No a priori assumption can be science-based because science is about conclusions that follow from data. Therefore there's nothing science-based ...
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Is is plausible that we could have neuronal maps of human brains without mind uploading being possible?

Multiple issues blocking uploads There are several different issues that make mind 'uploads' impossible at this time. Different neuron types There are something like a dozen different neuron types in ...
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Is is plausible that we could have neuronal maps of human brains without mind uploading being possible?

Technologically if you can map every connection you can upload the mind. The trick is every connection is more than just every neuron. Not only is it possible we can do it for simple brains, the only ...
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Is is plausible that we could have neuronal maps of human brains without mind uploading being possible?

AI software runs on digital software. It typically has separate training and predicting passes. This lets us train a model, then save it, then experiment with changing the parameters, or seeing what ...
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Is is plausible that we could have neuronal maps of human brains without mind uploading being possible?

Getting a scan of an object is something entirely different than being able to reconstruct it. The brain operates fast, and is heavily inter-connected. Thus if you don't sample everything at the ...
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Is is plausible that we could have neuronal maps of human brains without mind uploading being possible?

The connectome is not enough. To copy the mind you also need the state of each neuron. The brain is hardware. The mind is software. Having a full schematic of the hardware doesn't tell you much about ...
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Is is plausible that we could have neuronal maps of human brains without mind uploading being possible?

Insufficient Compute It's entirely reasonable that we would have the technology to take a full snapshot scan of the brain, yet be unable to simulate how it would evolve over time due to the superfine ...
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