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So I have a species of creatures who want to design a cannon using biological processes. Here are some things the cannon needs to do:

  1. Launch a 4 pound (~1.8 kg) cannonball at around 1430 ft (~435 meters) to 1700 ft (~520 meters) per second.
  2. Needs to take less than 5-10 seconds to load, the less time the better. One should be able to load and fire the cannon by himself.
  3. The cannon needs to weigh less than one short ton and be carried and handled by the creature, much like a musket. The creatures can carry that much.
  4. The cannonball needs to be fired only using biological processes which the cannon provides (i.e. the shooter only provides the cannonball for firing).
  5. The means of propelling the cannonball must be produced by the cannon itself, which would most likely be a living creature.

Source for muzzle velocity and cannonball weights here.

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  • $\begingroup$ Does this have to be a cannon (powered by rapidly expanding gas), or are other means of moving the mass OK? When you mean 'biological processes', does that mean no metal, and no gunpowder? The cannon isn't part of creature, correct? Then you can have tree trunks + methane, which are biological. Flame and heat could be created by a two-chemical reaction (along the lines of a bombardier beetle). $\endgroup$ – asylumax Dec 17 '17 at 1:25
  • $\begingroup$ @asylumax I was mostly looking for other means, and the only metal allowed is the ball, and whatever the creature needs to survive. The cannon is not a part of the creature, it would be a tool. $\endgroup$ – OneSurvivor Dec 17 '17 at 1:30
  • $\begingroup$ I was thinking along the lines of Phenomenal Flatulence (methane), but enough gas to fire 6 rounds will require an enormous digestive system, and correspondingly massive appetite. Meanwhile, the creature will starve (or cook) since that much methane won't be healthy for the creature or any vegetable matter nearby whenever there's a spark.... $\endgroup$ – user535733 Dec 17 '17 at 2:38
  • $\begingroup$ @user535733 If you have an idea on how large the digestive system would have to be, and how quickly the six shots could be recharged, please feel free to leave an answer. $\endgroup$ – OneSurvivor Dec 17 '17 at 2:41
  • $\begingroup$ If you had a bunch of cows (or equivalent) under a tent, and were able capture the methane, would this be OK? From what I get, the only thing that is critical is that the cannon have biological components; storage of it could be in wooden tanks, or bladders. $\endgroup$ – asylumax Dec 17 '17 at 2:43
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Well, we know killer whales can definitely toss heavy seals a long ways (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7WGIH35JBE), but that's a bit out of the scope of the question. The creatures are on land, and if they can carry 1000 kg, they are big.

Could a natural gunpowder or equivalent be made? The bombardier beetle is one example of something that can generate two chemicals, and mix them on demand. From Wikipedia, "The spray is produced from a reaction between two chemical compounds, hydroquinone and hydrogen peroxide, which are stored in two reservoirs in the beetle's abdomen." Our comrades over at Biology tell us the maximum pressure inside BTW:

https://biology.stackexchange.com/questions/30143/whats-the-maximum-pressure-inside-a-bombardier-beetle

It's kind of low, so you'd get those elements separately (or from two different creatures, which is safer and easier). If you could find other creatures that had this capability, you could milk them in some fashion, so that brings the biological bit forward.

For the cannon, you need to have something that can handle the stress of combustion or whatever pressure is driving this. In theory, if you had a cored out tree trunk that was massive, you might be able to handle that sort of pressure.

What is the pressure? Firearms folks know a bit:

http://closefocusresearch.com/calculating-barrel-pressure-and-projectile-velocity-gun-systems

They assume average pressure is about 1/4 of the peak pressure. For an iron projectile (assuming a sphere), 7.8x that of water, that's about a 3" diameter shot. From the equation that the gun folks use, peak pressure of 3000 psi, with a 24" barrel gets you into the 500 m/s range.

Bamboo might be used (ala Captain Kirk in episode with the Gorn), but Mythbusters has already busted that idea, but that's for a single bit of bamboo. Looking at mechanical properties of bamboo, tensile strength is 2000 kN/cm^2, vs 35000 kN/cm^2 for steel, about 1/15th.

http://bambus.rwth-aachen.de/eng/reports/mechanical_properties/referat2.html

If you make a piece of wood thick enough, you might be able to handle the stresses of whatever your propellant is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pressure_vessel

For large enough thicknesses of wood, you might be able to pull this off. Got to do some additional math to check this out.

If the cannon is to be fed food, and produce the required reaction, then some sort of dual creature setup might work. One creature (or creatures) on one side of the cannon excretes compound A; another secretes compound B. When mixed, they ignite, or they become far more volatile. The problem with this is that biologically, you would be asking a creature to excrete something with high caloric/energy value, unless this can be justified for another evolutionary reason.

As far as ignition goes, this discussion talks about some possibilities:

Can hydrochloric acid and digestive enzymes cause a fire?

For full completeness, Larry Niven's stage trees should be mentioned, and various similar systems:

Could plants spread their seed to other planets?

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  • $\begingroup$ I was more worried about the chemical reactions and launching the projectile, as I know what I would like to use for containing the blast. But good answer! $\endgroup$ – OneSurvivor Dec 17 '17 at 2:32
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They can go along the path of Ecballium, and genetically engineer it.

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It gets its unusual name from the fact that, when ripe, it squirts a stream of mucilaginous liquid containing its seeds, which can be seen with the naked eye. It is thus considered to have rapid plant movement.

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Option 1 : Throwing

The bite strength of a crocodile is about 18kN. Making some big assumptions that a biological cannon is engineered, and assuming engineering can beat nature by about 4:1, you could create 3 m (9 ft) barrel that pitches or spits the cannon ball at the desired velocity. The energy requirement is between 40 and 60 kcal per throw, which is not unreasonable (a can of soda contains about 200 kcal). You could make the barrel as compact as 2 m (6 ft) by choosing the slower velocity. The governing equation is : v = sqrt( 2 s a )

Option 2 : Chemical Propellant

As mentioned in other posts, it is possible to imagine an engineered organism treating glycerin with nitric and sulfuric acid to produce a meta-stable TNT, or other explosive chemicals. The pressure that the combustion chamber has to endure depends, again, on the muzzle length and ranges from 12 MPa for a 3-meter barrel to 52MPa for a 1-meter barrel and the higher muzzle velocity. According to Wikipedia, pine at 40 MPa could handle the lower range. There is also the possibility, if engineered organisms are a possibility, of naturally produced nylon (which can stand much higher tension) keeping the chamber together. There would have to be some sort of biological slide action allowing the propellant into the chamber, then sliding closed to protect those components from the combustion. A "tired" organism might misfire fantastically. From your link, I found the cannon ball diameter of 3 inches. The equation involved is P = F / A

Option 3 : Rail Gun

Alternatively, the cannon ball might have a small plug of conductive metal on it that the engineered organism could vaporize with a high current and conduct out of the chamber. The barrel pressures involved would be unchanged. Voltage isn't a problem here - electric eels (860 V) generate much more voltage than a rail gun might require (20 V). Power (P = V I) is a concern, but you might be able to handwave it. Neurons (the source of the electrical power) take between 1/200ths of a second to a little under a second to recover between firings.

A Note to Consider

For high-energy impacts (like canon shots) the velocity is not the most significant term in the penetration equations. What is "high-energy" depends on the target material, but once you are in this region Newton's penetration equation applies - penetration = bulletLength x (density of bullet / density of target material)

Because of this, you may prefer long, spin-stabilized cannon balls and long barrels.

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Well, you can follow the idea from Warhammer 40k Tyranids: They are a countless swarm of creatures that devours everything remotely organic, leaving on their trail only barren planets. The hive mind that controls them adapts the weapons the Tyranids use to match the situation.

Your typical, friendly Tyranid Warrior

One of the most iconic weapon is the Fleshborer:

The Fleshborer, designated by the binomial Pulpa terebro, contains a compact brood nest where Borer beetles lay their eggs, which hatch and mature, sustained by the weapon for future use as ammunition. These beetles are kept in their mature state in a hormone-induced dormancy until the weapon is ready to be fired. At this point, neural impulses from the wielder forces one of the insects into a firing sphincter. From here, the beetle can be fired at a target by a further impulse.

The beetles move very little until the weapon is triggered by a massive electro-chemical shock which drives the beetle into sudden frenzied action. Using their powerful flea-like legs they launch themselves out of the weapon at tremendous speed. The beetle itself is blind, having been specifically bio-engineered this way to lessen any possible deviation its flight path. On striking they expend their life energy in a matter of seconds, boring frenziedly through the target's armour, flesh and bone. If however the beetle fails to find a target, or hits something that even in its frenzied state it cannot bore through, it quickly dies regardless. The beetles secrete a potent digestive enzyme upon impact with a target, aiding the penetration of armour and flesh. http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Fleshborer

Now you can create a similar mechanism by itself: an insect colony would create a gun-like cocoon with semi-mature but dormant insects. Now when your user shoots the gun, the insects kill the prey gorging themselves on food. Now, the smart user can leave enough of the carcass to be turned into new gun-colony.

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  • $\begingroup$ Interesting... Controlling them in a non-hive mind situation would be difficult. $\endgroup$ – OneSurvivor Dec 18 '17 at 19:36
  • $\begingroup$ Controlling the Tyranids - not really, but the Fleshborer gun could in theory form sort of semi-symbiotic relationship with other species since it would be beneficial both for the gun wielder (he kills the prey) and the beetles (if the wielder will eat the killed prey he will be stronger and feed the gun hence produce more beatles) $\endgroup$ – Yasskier Dec 18 '17 at 19:40
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Very simple, just have a giant Elder Dragon put a 2kg rock in his mouth and spit it out as fast as he can.

As a bonus you'll get a fireball.

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  • $\begingroup$ Carrying the dragon around would be problematic, which perhaps I need to specify. $\endgroup$ – OneSurvivor Dec 18 '17 at 5:41
  • $\begingroup$ Giant dragon don't need to be carried. The dragon carries you. $\endgroup$ – Fred Dec 18 '17 at 7:10

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