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We've had a few STEM questions asking for the total wattage necessary for a laser to vaporize a person. I would like to focus on the human aspects of it, specially relating to sensory experience. The reason being that in one of my tales, weapons that can vaporize people exist and are common enough that they will be used a few times. I would like to describe the experience of watching these being used to the reader.

Now, I think I've figured out most of what a bystander watching from a safe distance would perceive.

They would see a bright flash, and then the victim immediatelly exploding.
They would hear a loud bang.
They would feel a very warm draft passing over their skin.

But I still need a general idea for the smell and taste. I could maybe figure it out on my own, but since the mortician won't allow me in the closest funeral home anymore a trip to the crematorium is out of question.

So does anyone know?

I expect a lot of different notes since different tissues have different amounts of water, fat and sugars. Is that correct?

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    $\begingroup$ Cooked bacon probably 🤔 or burnt bacon, lot of heat involved in a laser vaporising a long pig & the bulk of the body is meat, so chances are it'll smell like cooking, but I'm just guessing here 🤗 $\endgroup$
    – Pelinore
    Commented Mar 18, 2022 at 7:45
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    $\begingroup$ Possibly relevant: What is the target wearing, and do clothes and possessions also vaporize? $\endgroup$
    – Atog
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    $\begingroup$ In that case the most pungent ions are what would prevail, even though many different smells would occur. Also consider that the energy to do this nearly instantly will be dissociating any complex molecules, so you will have mostly elemental gasses. 80% water will become H$_2$ gas and ozone. The rest will be carbon and nitrogen. All you need to do is vaporize a flea and you'll have an idea however, they're made of the same stuff. $\endgroup$
    – Vogon Poet
    Commented Mar 18, 2022 at 16:45
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    $\begingroup$ Your assigned FBI agent is too worried right now to even say hi $\endgroup$ Commented Mar 18, 2022 at 20:23
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    $\begingroup$ Note that you would get a long straight open tunnel behind the person too, as the laser power won’t stop just because the intended target ended. $\endgroup$
    – Aganju
    Commented Mar 18, 2022 at 23:09

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I don't think it would smell like much, beyond possibly "burnt" or "ash" (if that even has a smell).

Humans are mostly carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen, with the hydrogen and oxygen mostly being bound into water. This means that if you had an arbitrarily powerful laser with the beam big enough that the entire human fits inside and "vaporize" the human, you'd be left over with super-heated carbon dust and water vapor. You'd get something similar to what comes out of a crematorium, so just ash as you might find in an urn. It would be sterile, and probably rather odorless too.

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The closest reference I can find is to burning bodies.

Accounts from those having experienced the smell of burning bodies in concentration camps says its unmistakable and sweet. I have also found this reference, which I report

The smell of a burning body is the combination of burning skin, muscle, fat, hair, organs, spinal fluid, bacteria and even, possibly, bone. That means there’s a very complex smell to burning bodies, but it is one that is completely unmistakable and once you smell it you won’t forget it.

[...] Put all of these things together and it’s fair to say that a human body doesn’t have an easy to describe aroma when it’s on fire. There is a hint of pork/beef to it but it’s also sweet and often has an underlying sickness to it too and it can be so pungent that it even seems to become a physical taste.

One thing nobody disputes though is that it’s one of the most recognizable scents in the world and once you smell it, you will never forget it.

Vaporizing a body would probably get rid of some of the intermediate aromatic molecules which form during burning, but the only vaporization events of human bodies (Hiroshima and Nagasaki nuclear bombing) hasn't left accounts of the perceived smells.

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    $\begingroup$ OTOH burning hair and skin (keratin) is a pretty acrid smell. With hair, you can actually test this. And hair will catch fire easily. So the smell at least of burning people will change during the process - and in the presence of enough oxygen for an observer to be able the breathe and therefore smell, it probably will burn $\endgroup$
    – Chris H
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    $\begingroup$ @ChrisH, the linked page details all the scents, including burning hair. I didn't put all the details in the answer to keep it clean $\endgroup$
    – L.Dutch
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    $\begingroup$ Fair enough - I reckoned the major shift between hair/skin and meat would be worth including $\endgroup$
    – Chris H
    Commented Mar 18, 2022 at 9:38
  • $\begingroup$ Some of the war stories I read avidly in my youth make mention of pork roasting smells. Additionally, the phrase "long pig" has been applied to humans as food, in a cannibalistic setting. Hypothetically, "smells like a pork roast going badly" might be a useful simile. $\endgroup$
    – Criggie
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  • $\begingroup$ "Long pig" may account for the prohibitions against eating pork in some religions, as otherwise it could be difficult to know if you're eating Porky or Elmer. :-) $\endgroup$ Commented Mar 19, 2022 at 16:14
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Instantly vaporizing a whole person with a laser is a tremendously energetic event. The heat from said event would cause a thermal explosion that would kick up all the material within a significant radius. You would not smell the person, but you would smell all the dirt kicked into the air, all the smoke from anything around the core of the vaporization spot that would have remained cold enough to more simply catch fire, and probably a significant hint of ozone.

What you smell would most closely resemble a mixture a construction site and a bonfire... but the exact mixture of these smells will depend largely on where the person was standing when they were struck.

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    $\begingroup$ +1 vaporizing a person has the same problem most thick materials have the first layer of vaporized flesh acts a shield from the beam, so you need a protracted beam lasting minutes or enough heat that the body is disintegrated by the explosion not direct heating, thermal energy can only be transferred so fast. $\endgroup$
    – John
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Can You even smell it?

Evaporating average human give You around 7000m^3 of vapour. It is hot. If You do that in building then walls will be destroyed and dust related to this overpower smell of body. If You do that in open field then shockvave survivors will be far enough to not smell rising cloud of vapours.

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    $\begingroup$ This. If you magically have the ability to focus the kind of energy into instantly vaporizing a human (or any other 100-200lb animal), the explosive force from the vaporization alone wouldn't leave bystanders capable of smelling anything any more. IIRC, there's an XKCD What If about the unrealistic power requirements just to vaporize snow... $\endgroup$
    – Dúthomhas
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    $\begingroup$ There will still probably be a distance or time where the area has cooled down but there are still floating particles to smell. $\endgroup$ Commented Mar 20, 2022 at 8:28
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The crematorium is not going to get you an answer because they do not vaporize a body, they oxidize it at a much slower rate.

The most pungent ions are what would prevail, even though many different smells may occur from plastics or other wearables. But as others have said, consider that the energy to do this nearly instantly will be dissociating any complex molecules, so you will have mostly elemental gasses. 80% water will become H$_2$ gas and ozone. The carbon is a given, along with some nitrogen. But none of the ions with that sweet aroma of cooked bacon will survive this laser. All you need to do for an objective answer is vaporize a flea under an industrial laser (I volunteer Goodies for this gruesome task) and you'll have an idea. They're made of the same stuff.

Another quick way to test this is to build a jacob's ladder and fry a dead bug in the arc by holding it on the end of a long plastic rod. The smaller the bug, the closer your smell will be. You're trying to use the plasma to vaporize rather than cook.

Alternately, describe the smell of the biggest bug zapper you can find when a mosquito hits it, and no one will question you.

Having said all of this, honestly you need to think more about the stuff that will actually be cooked instead of vaporized. If they are standing on stone, or an asphalt street, or a cement sidewalk, there will only be enough energy to cook these instead of vaporize them (at least at a certain depth). These ions will put off a stronger smell than the elemental vapors, and every situation could be completely different.

I have to reiterate that what you smell will be far away from the victim, as that vapor will be too hot to smell, it will sear your nostrils.

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No smell

Q: "the total wattage necessary for a laser to vapourize a person. "

A person won't evaporate when using current day high power laser

The effect of a heavy laser would be cutting a person in two halves, or perforating a person. It will be scorched on the wound sides, I don't think there will be relevant fire, smoke or smell.. except maybe when a laser is used at point blank, indoors. My reference for this is heavy industrial laser cutting equipment..

A person sized laser beam would yield vapor and ashes

Similar, but don't try this at home.

Suppose we have a human body size laser beam with 2 million times the surface hit by a heavy industrial laser (just under 2 square meters).. you'll end up with instant water vapor + a cloud of ashes.. In that case this answer also stands, there won't be time to oxidize anything slowly, yielding fire and smoke. The target will explode, the ashes will spread and fall to the ground.

The water vapor is gone, you'll smell the ashes. According to this source, human ashes are odourless,

https://farewill.com/articles/what-are-human-ashes-like

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  • $\begingroup$ I know that, but please assume the technology is available. $\endgroup$ Commented Mar 18, 2022 at 14:36
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    $\begingroup$ I remember seeing someone who stuck their thumb in a high power fully focused laser beam. There was a nice hole drilled through the nail and out the other side. No blood as everything was cauterised instantly. Eventually, like an ear piercing, the hole closed up, the nail regrew and now they just have a scar. $\endgroup$ Commented Mar 18, 2022 at 15:51
  • $\begingroup$ So we have a human size laser beam diameter.. no scanning or rotating mirror tricks.. it will be huge energy and very quick.. @TheSquare-CubeLaw I've found a source, edited my answer. $\endgroup$
    – Goodies
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    – Jim421616
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    $\begingroup$ "The effect of a heavy laser would be cutting a person in two halves, or perforating a person." I think it'd be more likely to explode them, as a chunk of them detonates in a steam explosion and tears the rest of them apart. $\endgroup$
    – nick012000
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Kentucky Fried Human

Seriously.

The energy required for a phazer to vaporise someone is also going to basically cook and coagulate their proteins. The "vapour" you're describing is a horrific stew of carcinogens, byproducts of combustion, various ejected fluid and solid particles.

YUM!

You can see in the video how energy applied to flesh yields vapours of various kinds. This vapour does have a characteristic odor, and it is basically the smell of cooking. It also has a taste, kind of metallic, kind of umami rich.

For your story: it is an almost delicious aroma, if the true source of it remained hidden from the olfactor; and one that, even after many years, never quite leaves the nose.

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    – nick012000
    Commented Mar 19, 2022 at 5:54
  • $\begingroup$ @nick012000 -- Depends on the amount of energy and how fast. I always thought that a realistic phaser blast ought to take several scorching seconds to do its job. Instantaneous vapourisation just seems too quick and clean. $\endgroup$
    – elemtilas
    Commented Mar 19, 2022 at 20:11
  • $\begingroup$ @nick012000 -- Also, from experience, it does actually smell (and taste) cooked. Until they start overcharring things! Then, indeed, it smells burnt. $\endgroup$
    – elemtilas
    Commented Mar 19, 2022 at 20:21
  • $\begingroup$ @elemtias Are you saying you've worked on weaponised lasers for the military or something? $\endgroup$
    – nick012000
    Commented Mar 19, 2022 at 22:05
  • $\begingroup$ @nick012000 -- What would give you that impression? $\endgroup$
    – elemtilas
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This happens every day in surgery

And it basically smells like burnt hair.

Surgeons use electrocautery as a device to pass current through the body. Depending on waveform the diathermy will either cut through tissues, be used to stop individual bleeding vessels, or fulgurate, which looks like a Palpatine/Thor lightning effect. This concentration of current vapourises tissues. I only use it on muscle/tendon/ligament, so the smell from other tissues may vary, but the closest smell is to light a few strands of your hair.

Try it at home (strands of hair, not diathermy) and you’ll be able to mull over all the adjectives you need. Just don’t do it indoors as it really lingers.

Informally, I tend to call diathermy the ‘lightning stick’ at work, and ‘knife and fork’ for the scalpel and forceps.

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    – elemtilas
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blood and burnt hair (and probably furniture)

The laser is directional, and it cannot have exactly the energy to "vaporize a human body". The quantity of human matter in the path of the beam will not be the same in all the points of the beam, so if the beam intensity is enough to vaporize, say, a human chest or a human leg, it will vaporize a hand and keep on vaporizing. A human-shaped laser beam with variable intensity, while theoretically possible, goes against the YAGNI rule: if you use a megabeam to kill a human, that's because you don't have anything handier. If you have a man-vaporizing beam, you can get yourself one million man-killer beams for the same effort, or a single man-killing beam with one millionth the effort.

The "vaporization" will then be either incomplete or excessive; probably both in different areas of the target body.

So, what happens? The vaporized portions will smell like burnt protein and nitrogen oxide (an acrid, dry smell, almost indistinguishable from burnt hair because, well, hair are made of protein). There will be no cooking smells because target is vaporized where it is vaporized, and explodes where it isn't. The energy will be preferentially absorbed by water, which will flash into water vapour, exploding tissues away from the incoming beam. Those tissues will be almost raw, and therefore smell of blood (or other things - for example, in the case of the bowels...).

Then, the beam's remains will continue on their path and incinerate/vaporize whatever they find, which will likely be furniture. Depending on the composition of said furniture, all sorts of smells are possible.

However, I expect that a laser hit on a human body will be almost indistinguishable from the detonation of a largish, odorless bomb kept in close contact with the body (same sound, light, smell, and side effects).

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