Timeline for Discovering an AI in a human body
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| May 22, 2017 at 3:12 | vote | accept | Andon | ||
| May 9, 2017 at 20:44 | comment | added | Andon | No worries! Your comments have actually given me some interesting thoughts. | |
| May 8, 2017 at 22:33 | comment | added | Asher | @Andon I see. I misunderstood the question then, my apologies. | |
| May 8, 2017 at 21:14 | comment | added | Andon | @Asher To clarify I wasn't saying you're wrong, just clarifying the position of the question. Whether a human mind uploaded into a machine is considered an AI isn't what I'm worried about. I'm questioning how someone whose mind never started as a human one could figure it out. | |
| May 8, 2017 at 13:58 | comment | added | Asher | @Andon I disagree. A biological brain contains a mind that is also "programmed from the ground up," and which is prone to errors of judgment and memory inherently. If the brains themselves are indistinguishable, whether the minds are distinguishable hinges completely on the quality of programming. And honestly, I wouldn't trust my memory of my own childhood to be more complete than a professionally programmed one. I'd poetically be accused of being an AI and the AI would get off free as an original human. | |
| May 7, 2017 at 20:07 | comment | added | Andon | @Anketam Only in a general sense. They're the product of an evil super-soldier program, which would have layers of secrecy. And then the Bio-Plague Apocalypse comes and a lot of records are lost. They still know a lot, but some specifics are lost. Handily, this also makes it so I don't have to really explain every single thing that's different. | |
| May 7, 2017 at 20:05 | comment | added | Andon | @11684 Some may be regular soldiers "Upgraded" to super-status. They'd have childhood. Others definitely wouldn't, being grown in the program and later "Upgraded" | |
| May 7, 2017 at 20:03 | comment | added | Andon | @Asher That distinction is a little outside the scope of the question. It's determining whether the mind has a biological origin (Uploaded from a person) or a completely artificial one, programmed from the ground up. | |
| May 7, 2017 at 17:26 | comment | added | Catalyst | Turing test extra credit: xkcd.com/329 | |
| May 7, 2017 at 17:20 | answer | added | Shadow1024 | timeline score: 4 | |
| May 7, 2017 at 16:33 | comment | added | Anketam | Since they are genetically modified, does the person trying to prove it know what was genetically modified? Checking a DNA test result against a list of genetic modifications should only match if they are an AI. | |
| May 7, 2017 at 12:04 | answer | added | Hsasaradd Tsinthos | timeline score: 1 | |
| May 7, 2017 at 9:59 | comment | added | 11684 | My comment assumes the super-soldiers don't get to have childhood, since creating them ~20 years before they can be made useful seems highly inefficient for a government that can create artificial brains. | |
| May 7, 2017 at 9:57 | comment | added | 11684 | Do these super-soldiers remember a childhood? If not, this could give them the required doubts. If they do, would they all have different, flawless memories? Demonstrating the similarities between the childhood memories of a number of AI soldiers or pointing out the flaws in their memories might also convince them they might not be human. I would find it hard to believe anyone could write such a good backstory that not only someone who was told the story, but also someone who remembers it as if it were their own and has all the time in the world to think about the details would believe it. | |
| May 7, 2017 at 4:38 | comment | added | Asher | I'd argue that a mind in a synthetic brain is already an AI, since the architecture determines the mind. That's why a human who suffers brain damage doesn't operate the same as before, cognitively or personally: the structure of the mind has changed as it is dependent on the structure of the brain. | |
| May 7, 2017 at 4:09 | comment | added | Bob Jarvis - Слава Україні | "Why is it always super soldiers?". What? You think you're going to get a lot of funding for the other kind? "Evil Overlord, sir - we have a secret project for which we need funding!" "A secret project, eh? What kind of secret project is it, underling?!" "Ooooh, it's a Really Good One, your awfulness!" "And what, precisely, is it I'm being asked to fund?" "Ummmm...soldiers, your hideousness". "Soldiers? Those I got. What kind of soldier?!?" "Errrrr...wellllll...*inferior* ones, your ungraciousness!" "Really? You want funding for inferior soldiers. Well, at least that's new. And...no". :-) | |
| May 7, 2017 at 3:15 | comment | added | Enigma Maitreya | Just going to make this observation, I see nothing in your narrative that suggest the synthetic brain is identical to an organic brain. Plus your assertion that Server Farms (Cloud might be better or look for a book "The Humanoids") pretty much reinforces the Synthetic Brain is different. This difference will be apparent in an MRI, X-Ray etc of the brain and in fact may kill it. | |
| May 7, 2017 at 3:04 | answer | added | Larry OBrien | timeline score: 9 | |
| May 7, 2017 at 1:36 | answer | added | Philipp | timeline score: 4 | |
| May 6, 2017 at 23:39 | history | edited | Andon | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| May 6, 2017 at 22:25 | comment | added | Bookeater | BTW any super soldier project will have the best funding, hence will be ahead of the pack as well as good (controversial) story bait. | |
| May 6, 2017 at 21:53 | comment | added | Cort Ammon | I'd say Blade Runner, Ex Machina,and Bicentennial Man all directly tackle the question. The Matrix, Existen-z, and a few others even go further to tackle the question of what is reality, which is a key question for really digging at strong AI. Dr. Who also really enjoys playing with the perceptions that make us believe we are human. | |
| May 6, 2017 at 21:34 | answer | added | Amadeus | timeline score: 6 | |
| May 6, 2017 at 21:29 | comment | added | Phiteros | You may be cracking open the philosophical question of what is/isn't AI, and whether or not you can consider AI to be conscious. | |
| May 6, 2017 at 21:05 | comment | added | Andon | Somehow, no. I've been meaning to fix that, just never got around to it... | |
| May 6, 2017 at 20:31 | comment | added | JDługosz | Have you seen Blade Runner? Actually the testing process is explained better in the book. | |
| May 6, 2017 at 20:28 | history | asked | Andon | CC BY-SA 3.0 |