Timeline for How to convert an entire region to non-violence [closed]
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| Nov 14, 2015 at 23:24 | comment | added | Midwinter Sun | @Kolaru Probably not immediate post-war Japan, but long-term it was pretty peaceful. Actually altogether the rebuilding in West Germany, Japan, South Korea would be exemplary in terms of how to rebuild a country after you go in and destroy it. From bitter enemies (well, Germany and Japan, at least) to allies of the "peaceful democracies" OP is probably talking about. I wonder if those policies would work in the ME. A military friend of mine thinks the US should have tried in Afghanistan. | |
| Nov 14, 2015 at 23:02 | comment | added | Kolaru | @MidwinterSun Touché :) However, this example is probably not what the OP expects (destroy their armies completely, nuke them until they surrender without condition, heavily occupy their territory, and then impose a peaceful constitution). Anyway, the example is interesting : does the post-war Japan, with is very high criminality (due to Yakuzas) count as "peaceful" ? | |
| Nov 14, 2015 at 22:43 | comment | added | Midwinter Sun | @Kolaru I think that was Japan until a couple of weeks ago? Didn't they just now gain the ability to declare war in limited circumstances? Only real world example, but really good point... assuming this is the Middle East, the "peaceful democracies" have blood on their hands, too. | |
| Nov 14, 2015 at 22:38 | comment | added | Kolaru | I thing that what you want to achieve is basically unclear. What is a peaceful democracy ? A democracy which has no risk of declaring a war (finding a real example of that is quite hard) ? Is the only problem the fact that the region is a threat to the rest of the world, or do you want to achieve peace between regional powers as well ? When you ask what "the world" can do, what do you mean by "the world" (you seem to consider it has being unified) ? Finally you title speak about "non-violence", but it looks like you mean "not warlike". | |
| Nov 14, 2015 at 22:24 | history | closed |
o.m. clem steredenn Frostfyre Kolaru HDE 226868♦ |
Needs more focus | |
| Nov 14, 2015 at 21:31 | answer | added | Cort Ammon | timeline score: 1 | |
| Nov 14, 2015 at 20:32 | answer | added | Midwinter Sun | timeline score: 5 | |
| Nov 14, 2015 at 20:17 | comment | added | James Beninger | @CortAmmon I'd welcome any comments that challenge my biases. A lack of understanding probably underpins a number of problems. It sounds like you've got thoughts on the matter, and I'd love to hear them. | |
| Nov 14, 2015 at 20:09 | comment | added | Cort Ammon | You show a lot of biases in your phrasing, such as "bring them into the fold of peaceful democracies." Are you prepare for the answer to not be the answer you think it is? You may find that the rabbit hole goes down further than you thought, and in fact, you may find that you are helping dig it without even knowing. | |
| Nov 14, 2015 at 19:49 | comment | added | James Beninger | @Frostfyre, do you expect to do any worse than anyone else over the years? | |
| Nov 14, 2015 at 19:42 | answer | added | Ville Niemi | timeline score: 2 | |
| Nov 14, 2015 at 19:27 | review | Close votes | |||
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| Nov 14, 2015 at 19:13 | comment | added | Midwinter Sun | @Frostfyre I'm actually working on it. May post it on this question or just ask it more overtly myself. "How it got here" is significantly easier than how to stop it, though. | |
| Nov 14, 2015 at 18:06 | comment | added | Frostfyre | Are you asking the WB community what caused the current state of affairs in the Middle East and how to solve it? I think we're good, but we're not that good. | |
| Nov 14, 2015 at 16:54 | comment | added | James Beninger | Given the current/historical narratives on the Ottoman empire, I'm not sure History or Islam would provide much more insight. I've never seen a cohesive narrative (I'm not sure there even is one with such a heterogeneous region), but I'd love to see people's thoughts from a semi-fictional PoV. Sometimes stepping away from a problem into the abstract can distill narratives that would otherwise be muddied. | |
| Nov 14, 2015 at 16:44 | comment | added | Vincent | But the second question is on-topic here. | |
| Nov 14, 2015 at 16:43 | comment | added | Vincent | And I think you've already answered your first question(s). But if you want to know more, you should ask the question on History SE or Islam SE. They can provide you a better answer than here. Here we deal with hypothetical cases, not historic ones. | |
| Nov 14, 2015 at 16:34 | comment | added | Vincent | It seems clear to me that the Empire you are describing is the Ottoman Empire. I am right? | |
| Nov 14, 2015 at 16:13 | history | asked | James Beninger | CC BY-SA 3.0 |