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In a capitalist society where automation has made the value of human labour worthless. What would keep the rich form just killing off the poor?

The pure can also organize themselves and fight for they rights. They have majority. They still may seize enough weapons or simply fight better than robots. It is not clear how to kill most the ...
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Could medieval Native Americans domesticate the bison?

We already have a real life example of this in the form of Alpacas and Llamas, where domesticated by the Incas and most likely their predecessor Kingdoms. In fact the famous Inca roads were developed ...
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In a capitalist society where automation has made the value of human labour worthless. What would keep the rich form just killing off the poor?

We have around two centuries of experience with automation now, and the one thing we've learnt is that the need for human labour doesn't disappear. It shifts, moves, maybe is reduced somewhat but ...
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In a capitalist society where automation has made the value of human labour worthless. What would keep the rich form just killing off the poor?

What would keep the rich form just killing off the poor? Pretty much just one thing. Sentiment. As long as humans are in charge, even the most callous and psychotic of humans, there will be a flinch ...
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In a capitalist society where automation has made the value of human labour worthless. What would keep the rich form just killing off the poor?

Your question was a little long. I think I can rephrase it: If robots do all of the work in the future, and people do not work anymore, what would prevent the wealthy from killing the poor? I don't ...
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In a capitalist society where automation has made the value of human labour worthless. What would keep the rich form just killing off the poor?

"can you give a good reasons the rich would fail to get rid of the poor" if you replace 'rich' with autocratic feifdoms of any local optimization, AI with eugenic/crop targetted syn-bio, and ...
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In a capitalist society where automation has made the value of human labour worthless. What would keep the rich form just killing off the poor?

Socialists vs. Sociopaths This is a question that posits what will happen in a post-scarcity society. This is a very real problem that we're going to have to face in a hundred years or so. TLDR answer:...
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Could robots live in Antarctica?

NOTHING more dangerous and Formidable to anything in existence, or more dangerous to life is self than are LAWYERS! Somehow you will have to get around the Antarctic Treaty. Or perhaps in your world ...
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In a capitalist society where automation has made the value of human labour worthless. What would keep the rich form just killing off the poor?

There are multiple reasons why the rich wouldn't kill off the poor in your scenario. "Killing off the poor? Do you have any idea how much money that would take?!" The easiest reason your ...
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Could robots live in Antarctica?

/a large group of androids decide to start their own country/ The question is not whether they could exist there. You seem to have settled that. The question is why. Why do the androids want a ...
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In a capitalist society where automation has made the value of human labour worthless. What would keep the rich form just killing off the poor?

Frame Challenge: Assuming you are thinking about automation that has reached a point where it can self-perform the design, production, operation, and maintenance in order to provide its owners with ...
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In a capitalist society where automation has made the value of human labour worthless. What would keep the rich form just killing off the poor?

Well actually a lot of reasons..... Morality, Being rich dosnt automatically make you a psychopath. No reason to. People are rarely evil just for thrills. The masses maybe "useless" but if ...
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Could robots live in Antarctica?

With some space tech Regular batteries only work up to certain low temperatures. They won't brick, but they will either lose charge more quickly or not work at all. You can take a page from NASA and ...
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In a capitalist society where automation has made the value of human labour worthless. What would keep the rich form just killing off the poor?

The TL;DR here is that it makes no sense for the "capital owners" to do this in a market economy as we understand it. The workers are also consumers, so are essentially the source of the ...
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In a capitalist society where automation has made the value of human labour worthless. What would keep the rich form just killing off the poor?

Those in power need to have the lower classes to feel powerful. If there all of the lower-class individuals (say, 85% of your population) disappeared, the high-class would be ruling over nobody. Also, ...
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In a capitalist society where automation has made the value of human labour worthless. What would keep the rich form just killing off the poor?

Didn't Douglas Adams frame this theory in one of his Hitchhiker skits? The wealthy and well-to-do when leaving their overused planet built two giant spacecraft, one for themselves and one for those ...
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In a capitalist society where automation has made the value of human labour worthless. What would keep the rich form just killing off the poor?

The poor also have killer robots In this economy, the lower class will still be 100x more wealthy than the average person today, just as the current lower class is much wealthier than the average ...
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In a capitalist society where automation has made the value of human labour worthless. What would keep the rich form just killing off the poor?

Apportionment Some form of representative government still exists, and apportionment of representation (and therefore power) is done on the basis of population. The poor are functionally ...
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In a capitalist society where automation has made the value of human labour worthless. What would keep the rich form just killing off the poor?

There are multiple psychological/sociological reasons for the rich to refrain from specicide. If we take the "rich" to be either the 1%, or the 1% of the 1%... Killing everyone else ...
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In a capitalist society where automation has made the value of human labour worthless. What would keep the rich form just killing off the poor?

What's the incentive? Capitalists move for profit. It seems that genocide for the point of genocide is not very appealing to anyone, aside from rare cases such as Hitler (and even then he had some ...
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In a capitalist society where automation has made the value of human labour worthless. What would keep the rich form just killing off the poor?

Because the Galaxy is Huge Much like how there are cities, suburbs, and rural areas, the same thing would happen with wealth and the poor people. Starting from the center and working out: Core worlds ...
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In a capitalist society where automation has made the value of human labour worthless. What would keep the rich form just killing off the poor?

Basically pets Or, a future equivalent thereof. If everyone is rich (in this answer I stop counting poor people as people, because that's what this answer boils down to), what is there to do? Who to ...
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In a capitalist society where automation has made the value of human labour worthless. What would keep the rich form just killing off the poor?

Economically there is no reason to keep people around if AI is better at all jobs. That's the ominous truth. So it would have to be some emotional or intellectual reason without economic benefit. The ...
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In a capitalist society where automation has made the value of human labour worthless. What would keep the rich form just killing off the poor?

This is a Frame Challenge What you're proposing is so unrealistic that it's unbelievable. This question fits the classic "how can I defeat my godlike character?" question. You've created a ...
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In a capitalist society where automation has made the value of human labour worthless. What would keep the rich form just killing off the poor?

Government, and a real Economy. This is not a new idea. Karl Marx bemoaned the capitalist class in the industrial revolution in the late 19th Century, and extrapolated the then existing trend of an ...
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In a capitalist society where automation has made the value of human labour worthless. What would keep the rich form just killing off the poor?

Nothing It's true that the wealthy have no use for the vast majority of the population, and regard them as dangerous parasites. But they still desire some things that require a substantial population ...
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In a capitalist society where automation has made the value of human labour worthless. What would keep the rich form just killing off the poor?

Ostentatious displays of wealth never go out of style "Ah, nice gardening 'bot you've got there, Chauncey. That's the N-3000, right?" "Please. The N-3700. The N-3000 is so last year. ...
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In a capitalist society where automation has made the value of human labour worthless. What would keep the rich form just killing off the poor?

There are an awful lot of poor people and if the AI and the capital class get to trigger happy there might well be a revolution. Revolutions can be a bit unpredictable but can lead to the leaders of ...
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In a capitalist society where automation has made the value of human labour worthless. What would keep the rich form just killing off the poor?

1. They need an object lesson. Where there's wealth, there's more wealth. Some hire others to run the AIs for them. There's a hierarchy of useful people, and then there are those without use. The ...
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Biological CPUs - why would the developed world fear them?

Cosmic Radiation Rays Space is big - but it also likely leads to further exposure to Cosmic Radiation. You can try to shield your ships like Earth, but then you're just going to get Single Event ...
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Would intelligent humanoid carnivores start a civilization?

The only condition we've been able to divine is that they absolutely need to be eusocial to achieve it. By this I mean: The group cooperates to raise and provision the young. There are different age ...
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Would intelligent humanoid carnivores start a civilization?

Historical Precedence? The transition from hunter-gatherers to agriculture is still an area of active study. It is possible, however, to have a city without agriculture. Poverty Point was an ancient ...
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Can a "criminal" country exist in the modern world without getting blockaded and invaded?

The things you describe happening in Banditland are very very tame compared to things happening in many real-life countries which have never been invaded. Contrary to what many politicians would have ...
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Will this "miraculous" change have a long-term effect on technology?

I think the overall short-term impact on STEM will be pretty small. If all people have suddenly become more nice and empathetic in your world, this will mean less crime, less wars, dealing with other ...
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Will this "miraculous" change have a long-term effect on technology?

The cultures with the most empathy that I could find are Saudi Arabia and Ecuador and the least Lithuania and Estonia Technology exports seem much higher in low empathy countries. War and conflict ...
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Can a "criminal" country exist in the modern world without getting blockaded and invaded?

If Banditland kept to themselves then it might be possible. However, you said that countries use Banditland to attack their enemies. That alone will almost guarantee that they can't survive in the ...
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Can a "criminal" country exist in the modern world without getting blockaded and invaded?

The criminal overlords need to be more careful with tourism. People mostly don't care about immoral actions in other countries. It's routine. What they care about is people being harmed. Suppose Elon ...
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Can a "criminal" country exist in the modern world without getting blockaded and invaded?

It is a small and worthless island. The fact that people there are doing whatever is of minimal consequence to people everywhere else. The counterfeiting could be troublesome but the fakes issued by ...
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Can a "criminal" country exist in the modern world without getting blockaded and invaded?

Yeah, plenty of third World countries like that already. Basically run by gangsters. They fulfill basic requirements for funding by pretending to be democracies and have no natural resources worth the ...
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Can a "criminal" country exist in the modern world without getting blockaded and invaded?

North Korea Though we can't make direct comparisons between your country and North Korea, they have parallels to one another. N. Korea does a great many things that aren't legal to most nations, both ...
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Can a "criminal" country exist in the modern world without getting blockaded and invaded?

Image is Everything: For a state like you are describing, the bad optics would be lethal. But there is a perfectly workable alternative. Lie your a** off. All these things are illegal but done in LOTS ...
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Can a "criminal" country exist in the modern world without getting blockaded and invaded?

Well... yes... and no... What one country considers illegal another country may not. That's true today all over the world. Take the practice of female genital mutilation, for instance. Most western ...
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A subtle war between the sexes

The numbers don't work. Assuming a stable population overall all childbirth must be from the lilim just to maintain a stable lilim population. Thus they're going to have to do something to alter the ...
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A subtle war between the sexes

Generous Social security / pensions...for women Women have no fear of retirement; their pensions will keep them in comfort. Lilim, in contrast, must either breed or save huge amounts of money. ...
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A subtle war between the sexes

Nasal manipulation This is slightly handwavy,but might suit a near future tech / low magic setting. Every cleaning product (or maybe food) on the planet is loaded with enzymes that destroy female ...
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A subtle war between the sexes

I Have a solution for the Lilim extinction problem, which simply involves some policies. There will be no need for any war or sky-portals to an exoplanet. But, the solution does rely on 2 kinds of ...
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Is it reasonable that a nation reject reincarnation?

Family feuds or clan feuds Over the years the different groups that arise within the society started to bear grudge against each other. Each reincarnation reinforced the hatred for the other party ...
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Is it reasonable that a nation reject reincarnation?

You're robbing Peter to pay Paul While infants may not have a fully developed soul, it is nonetheless present. Starting at puberty, the reincarnating soul gradually replaces the infant's, eventually ...
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Is it reasonable that a nation reject reincarnation?

Divine Retaliation If you have proven souls exist, you have to face the possibility that other spiritual beings could exist, namely deities. People could be very opposed to artificial reincarnation ...
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Is it reasonable that a nation reject reincarnation?

Proletariat Uprising The government of this country had a heavy partisan split that prevents it from effectively funding public infrastructure, so it was up to individual localities to fund ...
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