New answers tagged

1

Any commander, when finally realizing what they've got here, would salivate at the chance of employing dragons. Yes they are larger and easier to hit, but that does not automatically mean they will get hit or are useless. Armor: While their natural armor is nice, their ability to carry a lot of armor is even better. You can give up flight altogether and use ...


0

Have your dragons fly above the range of typical small arms and outfit them with the 25mm APW from Fallout:New Vegas. This will force the enemy to commit anti-aircraft resources (fighter intercept, helicopters, anti-aircraft missiles) to counter your dragons. While those resources are busy, send in swarms of fighter jets that cause even more damage.


1

Plant explosives the night before the attack. Just walk up to the turbines and plant explosives, and the next morning detonate them all. These windmills are located in a farm-land country, so there's plenty of farmland and crops to walk through undetected. You can also hire a few drone pilots to pick up the explosives cough, I mean the mail delivery packages,...


1

Two SSGNs Sorry Air Force, this is a poor use of your talents. Enter the Navy. Assuming anti-air / anti-missile weapons are suppressed, the easy answer is to use cruise missiles. Even if the defenders are able to get a few luckey shots off, all they have done is waste a missile, instead of killing an expensive airframe and crew. The targets are stationary, ...


2

Smart Skeets that go Boom No but really. Assumptions Let's try to answer the actual question. No destruction of other infrastructure, no "what if the war is in an entirely different stage and occupation is possible", no "hack the planet", etc. Who knows, perhaps the attacker is the producer of turbines and can cheaply replace the wind ...


5

Frame Challenge: You would not want to destroy the windmills anyway There is no good reason to take out the power plant permanently. If you are already doing a combined offensive in a modern context as the OP dictates, then the invasion will either be won or lost in the time it takes them to get the power back online if you just hit the control center. The ...


1

Consider the parameters- you have targets that are Quite spread out Not defended Not hardened Fragile Quite a few of them As such, nearly any weapon will do the job. Something like an A-10 or AC-130 could neutralize these targets quite efficiently- if a bullet can kill a tank, it can kill a windmill. There are downsides though. An A-10 in particular is not ...


3

Su-25 'Frogfoot' x 2 A Su-25 can carry 160 S-8 OFP-1 (aka "Broneboyschik") unguided missiles, each with a 9.2kg warhead (with 2.8kg of A-IX-10, that is approx. 4.4 kg TNT), so if you want to make a show out of it, look no further. Bonus propaganda points for a surgical strike instead of bashing everything in crosshairs. If you really want to reduce ...


0

All of the other answers give direct answers. Here is an option that I believe none have considered: sabotage. Option 1 (boots on the ground) Infiltrate the maintenance teams (might include, kill maintenance teams and send in sabotage teams). Destroy the breaking systems on the blades. Option 2 (software) Infiltrate the software that controls the ...


1

Zero planes. One missile. The bomb. I'm talking about a nuclear strike. Realistically, no matter how much General Don Quixote insists on it, destroying windmills turbines conventionally is a waste of resources. A single fighter with a missile can take out a substation and drop everything remaining on access roads for good measure. Hell, you could do it with ...


12

A handful of AC-130s and A-10s If you have a large number of nearby targets without significant anti-aircraft support, there's no substitute for AC-130s with help from A-10s. The AC-130 is basically a cargo plane with a cargo bay full of artillery and gunports drilled in the plane's left side. Note the gun barrels in this picture from Wikipedia. A small ...


1

I'm not sure if this will work, but how about drop tanks? Come barreling through the field on carefully planned supersonic trajectories. Wind turbines don't like excessive wind, especially when they are spinning. I don't think they're going to like a very close range sonic boom one bit. Just bring extra fuel for your time on afterburner.


2

Wind turbines are... going to be hard to attack by air directly. They're often made of composite (so hard to detect by radar), are far apart (so you can't really saturation bomb the place) and you have one attempt to get in... Bombers are the wrong tool Now, the smartest way to do this would be infantry with lots of det cord at the bases - and if you time ...


11

Use the GBU-43 Mother Of All Bombs (MOAB) It has an effective area of 1 square kilometer. As an air burst weapon, it will be especially effective against wind turbines. At a unit price of 170 thousand dollars per, you can have a sortie of 50 C-130 aircraft delivering these to target for 8.5 million dollars. Only a single pass is required to take out the ...


-4

Frame challenge Wind farms do not produce electricity, they produce subsidies. They're actually a handicap, so you want the enemy to have them. If your leaders are competent, like Chinese leaders are, your country manufactured the power and communications infrastructure of the enemy, which means it has a backdoor and you can turn it off at will. But your ...


0

Precision aerial minelaying From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Direct_Attack_Munition#Precision_aerial_minelaying On 23 September 2014, the U.S. Air Force performed the first-ever drop of a precision-guided aerial mine, consisting of a Quickstrike mine equipped with a JDAM kit. The Quickstrike is a Mark 80-series general-purpose bomb with the fuze ...


18

Frame challenge: two successive hits on the control centre As someone who worked on these kind of systems, I can tell you that the control centre is actually a significant chunk of electronics. Even if you have one spare, you certainly don't have more than a couple, especially if you hit several sites around the country, and it's not that quick to set ...


7

Paratroopers. It is old school but it is a good use of resources for this mission and I suspect will be the minimum to achieve this end. It is analogous to Operation Shock carried out in 1968 by Israeli paratroopers against elements of Egyptian electrical infrastructure. A modern mass attack as is proposed will not have much need of individual infantrymen ...


3

Use several low flying aircraft moving in roughly parallel lines As the targets are dispersed, the simplest strategy is to just drop explosive or shoot them, with the approach being to the point where the minimum amount of low flying aircraft cover the maximum amount of wind turbines assuming roguly straight flight paths. When each wind turbine is passed, ...


25

You neither want nor need an airstrike A missile is worth more than an windmill and that's not even considering the risk you expose the planes or ships to during the attack. Additionally bombing on that scale is so 1944 and one can't even deny responsibility. What you want is a cyber attack. Israel is doing something similar to hinder the Iranian nuclear ...


5

Think about incremental gains. Determine the value of certain things that are relatively easy to hit and build out to your desired goal of taking out the whole windfarm. Take one Sortie, and hit them in layers. So the First targets should be the switching and control center and even more important, the ROADS leading to it. Yes, the hardware is easy to ...


32

The problem is not that complex. The wind farm is connected to the electricity grid so... ignore the individual wind turbines, they don't matter. Attack the connecting infrastructure instead. In order attack (1) the transformers & substations and then (2) the power pylons that connect the wind farm to the electricity grid. One or two aircraft modern ...


25

Using standard military ordnance has the advantage of a rapid deployment, minimising time between issuing the strike order and its execution. Wind farm turbines are dispersed structures, so each must be attacked separately. I would suggest that a flight of 40 aircraft such as the F-16 be used, each carrying 6 AGM-65 Maverick air to ground missiles, each ...


8

Two B-52s The B-52 Bomb can hold up to 81 dumb fire bombs and 72 smart weapons. Two bombers can destroy nearly all the towers with dumb weapons, and then target the misses and remainders with smart weapons. B-52s are not small, but they get the needed fire power, and while the one pass is a bit curvy it should still be one pass.


11

Drop carbon wire or steel wire nets allover the field, with ballast to pull the nets down. The nets will get tangled in the rotating blades, and once they will be loaded with the weight of the ballast because of the rotation, the wire will cut through the blade. If the cutting doesn't succeed, the unbalance in the momentum of inertia can still produce damage....


28

Drones Drones are the future of warfare. Not just the multimillion dollar attack drones, but also the cheaper tiny drones that can be made en masse. The drones you want need to be more specialised, but are still effective. They need to run just for 10 minutes to an hour, will have explosives or thermite and are just airdropped out of a plane a few thousand ...


2

Humans are Machines, too! While humans may have relatively little direct ability to design their offspring, machines would have complete creative control – and likely arrive at explosive, yet-unseen diversity in short order, with individual machines able to radically alter their own designs to become something completely different in short order. And why ...


2

Humans sabotage a factory. Factory is rebuilt better to make that particular sabotage impossible. Just another learning experience. New factories incorporate the changes. Any trick only works once.


1

Humanity has never built a von neumann machine. The closest we have come is industrial civilization, which replicated itself from Europe to the Americas; and it was and still is a parasite on the biosphere. The machines are an actual von neumann machine. The entire construct. Their goal is simple; they bootstrap an industrial base required to send out ...


4

The AI is literally blind to us Similar to the "Hack" and "Expert System" explanations, but more foundational, based on how the machines perceive things in their world. Visible light is a tiny sliver of the spectrum. If the machines are mostly concerned with geological formations, and resource extraction, their sensoria may be drastically ...


1

Medicine - especially cardiovascular system Could you give the artery leading to that brain tumor a little twist? Thanks! (They might want to train up their range an extra yard or two so they can stand outside the MRI machine looking at the monitor) Could you yank the clot a little bit backward in the artery of this stroke patient so some blood gets past? ...


7

Because humans don't hunt ants. You might have tried to mass murder ants in your kitchen, but you never tried to genocide all the ants on the planet. They're only a concern when they're parading on your table, standing in your way. Otherwise you assume they're serving a purpose in the ecosystem and leave them be, you have bigger concerns in life. Humans aren'...


1

The machines find the equivalent of joy and purpose in making, fixing, and improving things. To pursue those activities is their goal. They don't care for dominating the planet or achieving eventual perfection, and don't think about their relationship to humanity any more than you think about your relationship to bacteria. Their purpose is to continue ...


0

Slavery There are many things that computers and robots can do really, really well. There are jobs which Humans and other animals are just better at. Not the creative brain-work that others have suggested: a good AI can beat that. But the grunt work, the dexterous drudgery that requires versatility and self-repair and more? Humans. There's a reason the Space ...


1

Symbiosis The machines could have realized that they had a profound need for humans to exist in some capacity and that wiping them out could lead to slower progress or even their eventual demise. Different types of symbiosis exist and your world could be a reflection of any. Pulling the definition from Wikipedia: Symbiosis is any type of a close and long-...


5

They study humans Asking why machines don't hunt humans is like asking why humans don't hunt ants that live in ant farms. Humans are an interesting species that can teach machines things about survival, solving problems, biology, intelligence, creativity, etc., much like humans learn from other animals. Or they keep them around just because it's nice to have ...


1

Expanding on @Demigan's answer: The machines don't want to destroy humanity. In fact they have been programmed to provide virtually unlimited quantities of anything for any human who asks for it properly, not that anyone knows what is the proper way. On the other hand during the initial analysis, the AI learned from our example that destroying the ...


9

Humans are the actual source of creativity and true intelligence In dealing with human sabotage, the machines learn new ways to repair themselves or build new designs, and are then able to apply their lessons at the scale of large geographical problems. They know to cap a volcano or reinforce a cliff because those problems are just scaled up versions of ...


10

They're here to save us, while trying to interfere with us the minimum amount possible. Unfortunately, whatever threat they're saving us from does require a vast amount of interference (wrapping up the planet and transporting it somewhere else levels of interference) but they still want to keep interference to an absolute minimum. So they aren't explaining ...


22

EXPERT SYSTEM We are looking at a completely automated and non-sentient system. No General AI No super-intelligence No mechanical hive-mind. Nothing that can be bargained or reasoned with. Instead, the Machines are working along something like an Expert System. An Expert System is simply a program which answers questions based on the knowledge of experts on ...


2

I think I got it and it will nicely illustrate the “alienness/otherness”. They do not destroy humanity, because of following “flaw”, “directive”. The machines' problem solving algorithm has developed in a way that only considers the effects, not the causes Essentially it is a medical drugs logic: do not treat the illness, treat the symptoms. Humans existence ...


20

The aliens created the machines without the concept of death and/or preserving life. They do not understand humans are killing them intentionally. They do not kill humans intentionally either. Accidents happen, if a boulder causes an AI unit to perish, they do not attack boulders in retaliation; why should they kill humans when AI unit is killed by them. ...


6

The Machines are very good at: Physics Engineering Solving problems that they understand how and why the problems happen The Machines have no programmed capability to: Understand the behavior of biological organisms Predict events they do not understand the reasons for A volcano approaches eruption. The Machines understand the mechanics of tectonics and ...


37

They don't need to. The Factory has a tolerance of parts wearing out and needing replacement. On a global scale, the damage that humans do is within that tolerance (as opposed to a volcano or a landslide, which are far more destructive and render massive areas of land unusable). It would be less efficient to waste resources exterminating the pests than it is ...


11

Because only weapons designed by the factory could ever be powerful enough to destroy the factory Humans are slowly declining and being starved out as the factory expands. They can cause damage through sabotage, but nothing that can't be repaired in time. They don't have the capability to threaten the factory as a whole, at least that's what the factory ...


-2

There are different types and levels of intelligence out there it would be strange if they did hunt humans specifically Let's consider the problem on 3 sufficiently different substrates - humans, other life we know, a practical mechanical swarm of our own Humans Humans have some level of cognition, which still amuses me how do they manage to do so with just ...


7

The Machines are too dumb to recognize our threat. ...If we actually pose a threat, that is. Maybe they run on some kind of reinforcement learning algorithm which values paperclip (or whatever) production over the next shift, but not much further into the future. Containing only the immediate problem is the way to maximize this (reasonably) short-term ...


31

The AI is looking for Dumb Ideas The AI's logic seems flawless. It has already explored nearly every possible scenario that leads directly to good outcomes. On the surface, this means that every idea it has is a good one; so, it can always predict what is a good risk, and what is a bad one. The problem is that it never takes a bad risk. In machine ...


49

Because they think that humans could be useful in the future After losing the war, the humans still pose a threat to the machines, but not an existential one. They are just a nuisance. But the machines know that it would be unwise to wipe out the humans. They recognize that they are something completely different, but also very complex (as chemistry, as ...


4

Okay, so... you state that the machines "creatively responding to issues they encounter on the surface". You also state (in a comment) that they are very willing to harm humans, they just don't do so proactively, at least not in the sense you'd expect as a problem-solving measure. You also say they're doing stuff like capping volcanoes. So... ...


Top 50 recent answers are included