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Urban farms in the safe zone Hydroponics, aeroponics, warehousing, and vertical farming, there are tons of modern ways to farm in a small area. Entire skyscrapers could be converted to huge farms. More exotic solutions like farming mushrooms, seaweed, or algae could also be used. Even animals can be raised in buildings. There's nothing stopping them from ...


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It depends on the location. Hydroponics can be used anywhere and have a good yield for relatively little space. More natural options can include securing a mountain valley (helps with natural defenses) such as those found in Swiss or Austria. Considering the nature of your apocalypse it mostly boils down to everything people do normally with the only ...


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If temperature and daylight are no longer issues, you can grow anything anywhere, and grow multiple crops per year limited only by growing time. All the farmland you need can be enclosed within town and city walls. It's already 20-45F in some places, not sure where you have in mind or how much of a change.


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Hydroponics. You don't even need to illuminate them anymore. Stack several layers in a garage somewhere and the food issue is solved 3 times over.


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It is most unlikely, but it would generally be possible. Not being aware means that you have no notion of "memory" or of "cause and effect". But! But! There exists genetic memory, and your species might very well have that. We do, so why wouldn't they. For example, human males (basically all higher animals) know exactly what they are to do with a female, ...


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Basic Agriculture does not require intelligence, memory or a notion of time. Natural selection is, by definition, entirely sufficient to encourage instinctive behaviours that increase the species chance of survival. It isn't likely to look like what we think of as farming - specific areas designated for farming are much less likely. But for example, ...


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Short answer: yes. My interpretation of the species These are my assumptions for a plausible species that would classify as intelligent and verbal, but have no concept of past or future. The creatures have brains that can process time, and form memories, at an autonomic/emotional level, but not a cognitive one. This means they have no reasoning, logical, ...


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The answer gets already accepted but I am obliged to disagree. First: is it true that time consciousness may appear as a requirement for intelligence. But intelligence is a really hard notion to define actually there are several definitions of intelligence IQ being only one of them. In my point of view, intelligence is the capacity to adapt to change in ...


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I think that there'll be a bit of trouble with definitions, semantics, and philosophical aspects of the question. In my opinion, the very comparison of given species to the mentally-butchered form of our ancestors isn't perfect as a problem statement, since the created gap is so huge, that - at least to me, currently - it's hard to establish whether the ...


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Let's briefly review key points of the question. Context of the question: There is a species, and it is intelligent. The species has no concept of past or future. What we want to know: How could this species farm something? EDIT: Asking this part actually requires that the species farm as part of the context, so I can't argue against their ability to farm - ...


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Stigmergy Lack of the concept of past and future essentially turns your species into operators of finite-state machines. While FSMs have limitations, you can do quite a lot with them. See this article from an example in real life. Say your intelligent aliens want to water their crops every 10 days. Here is a simple scheme that they can use without ...


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Non Temporal Species The only way I see this working is if the creature is a non temporal species kind of like the Prophets from Star Trek that do not experience time in a linear fashion like we do. For this species there is no concept of the past, present, or future since to them all of it is present tense and is currently happening. From the time they are ...


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Offering an alternative... Most answers consider they lack a concept of past/future because they just haven't developed it. To me, it seems vital for development as we know it. However, there's another alternative: They have no need of the concept of time. Consider if they, as a species, were unbound from the flow of time. Past and future would look very ...


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Hyper-instinctual savants: Your beings would have to be skirting the limits of what WE, at least, define as intelligent. It would mean that the individuals would need to be performing complex tasks out of an instinctual drive, but still be intelligent. The species would be VERY rigid in their ability to respond to problems. My answer would not meet the ...


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Offering a dissenting opinion on those that say the concept of time or even only the perception of causal relationship is necessary to develop habits that show traits common with agriculture (or other "long term thinking" activities) the humans engage in. First at all, a couple of definitions on my choice of terms (to address some points raised - rightfully ...


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For a being that cannot understand the concept of past and present , simply will not be able to develop agriculture. It is because they cannot co-relate the event of spiting/burying/dropping a seed to sprouting of a plant. Also a being which does not remember the past cannot collect knowledge and can never pass it on.For example though octopus have very ...


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http://www.exactlywhatistime.com/philosophy-of-time/ancient-philosophy/ Concepts of time, as philosophy concept, postdate agriculture. Ie "will never establish the concept of past and future events." I suspect you want even less cognitive ability, but I don't think you need to understand time to have an understanding of cause and effect outcome. I don't ...


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If they have no sense of past or future, they live in a continuous present, answering the stimuli they are getting right now: pain? move away! hunger? eat! Thirst? drink. Nothing more than an amoeba. I highly doubt that such a species could satisfy any definition of intelligence, let alone developing something as complex as agriculture. Don't forget that ...


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