I'm working on a comedic horror about an overzealous doomsday prepper. One idea I was playing with was an escape route, should it be needed...

The story centers around a hermit who's been preparing his defenses in the Tennessee hills for years. He's perhaps a little mad, but he's obsessed and he's a barely competent engineer. When his wildest dreams are realized in the form of the zombie apocalypse, he finally starts to​ pack homemade gunpowder into his most ridiculous invention. The hallway cannon.

Here's the question. How much black powder would he need to reliably clear a 3x6x25 foot hallway with at least a dozen zombies in it?

Keep in mind I'm hoping for completely clear. Literally shooting zombies out of a cannon, while leaving a passable hallway.

The hallway is obviously reinforced as needed, with smooth, albeit rectangular, steel plate walls. Assume a fairly good home mix of powder. Small grain, but mixed from garden supply sulfur, urine rendered saltpeter, and barrel cooked charcoal. Not perfect powder, but as good as it gets for home-brew.

Our hermit hero will be jumping down into the hall through a smallish breech also covered by reinforced steel plate, assume that this is the only significant hole in the hallway.

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    $\begingroup$ Just to be clear, in your fourth paragraph, it suggests you are firing zombies OUT of the cannon? $\endgroup$
    – Mikey
    Commented Apr 5, 2017 at 6:18
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    $\begingroup$ @Mikey I realize that launching isn't strictly necessary, but it is intended to be comedic horror. $\endgroup$
    – apaul
    Commented Apr 5, 2017 at 6:26
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    $\begingroup$ @Mikey The hallway, more or less, is the cannon. $\endgroup$
    – apaul
    Commented Apr 5, 2017 at 6:34
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    $\begingroup$ I just realized: he does not need a cannon. He needs a rocket engine. Something like a laid off solid fuel rocket booster. :D The big issue will be that the tunnel will red hot afterwards though. $\endgroup$
    – MichaelK
    Commented Apr 5, 2017 at 10:02
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    $\begingroup$ In his book "Fireworks; A History and Celebration" George Plimpton writes about launching a 1 ton firework from mortar made from a steel pipe. I forget the diameter of the pipe, I think it was 36 inches. But the charge needed to lift one ton to 2000 feet was 10 pounds of black powder. If your hermit had a piston fitted in a steel cylinder, pushing the back wall of the corridor, he should be able to launch 20 zombies @ 100 lb per zombie 2000 feet into the air. Your mileage may vary. $\endgroup$ Commented Apr 6, 2017 at 1:31

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Make it round

The big problem he faces is not how much gunpowder he needs, but that the "cannon" will be ripped to pieces and the "barrel" will probably cave in after he fires the shot.

Compounding this problem is the fact that he is not firing a projectile out of the "barrel" but something that allows the combustion gasses to pass around it. Unlike a projectile that acts as a near perfect seal and trapping the gasses — the only exception being the rifling that allows some gasses to pass around it — the zombies take up no more than 50% of the cross section of the corridor. This means he needs a much bigger charge to eject the "projectile(s)".

The Tsar Cannon gives an idea how thick the walls of the barrel needs to be in order to stand up to the pressure.

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Unless he reinforces the "barrel", the rock will most likely probably crack and collapse, trapping him in his hidey-place forever.

But things are not all doom and gloom... there are some upsides.

  • He does not need to worry about making more than one shot. If there is some damage — just not catastrophic such — then this is all right.

  • He is not firing a ball of iron at super-sonic speeds... he is firing flesh and bones at a few hundred miles per hour.

There are ways he can make this work.

  1. Make it a round corridor instead. Making it round evens out the pressure and you do not get stress focus points at the corners, because there will be no corners.

  2. Make the "lining" of the barrel layered and overlapping, with shock absorbing material between the rock and the lining. He needs something that is tough and hard, but that can crumble, to put between the lining and the rock.

    I would suggest: tin cans. They can be pre-crumbled so that they are, say, 25-50% metal and 75-50% air. The sheet metal will press into the cans and the cans will absorb the energy and extend the time of the impulse which proportionally lessens the force on the rock, increasing the likelihood that the rock will not crack and collapse.

  3. Make the explosion last longer. What he needs is not one big bang with tremendous pressure, because as Mythbusters concluded: high over-pressure (i.e. static pressure) does not equate to a big propulsive force, and especially not so when air can go around the projectile. What he needs is high dynamic pressure... i.e. a huge "wind" that keeps going until the barrel has been blown clear.

    So what he needs his gunpowder to be divided up into several charges that explode sequentially in very rapid succession. This draws out the blast, creates a much better dynamic pressure (i.e. "wind") while keeping the static pressure down. This has actually been employed in real life, by Nazi-Germany during WWII, in the V-3 weapon.

So... how much powder?

When it then comes down to how much gunpowder he needs... well: this is anyone's guess, because the sum of human experience when it comes to black-powder powered 60-inch zombie cannons is — understandably — quite limited.

I would suggest that you hand-wave it by saying he made a couple of experiments.

One was laughably under-powered... not enough to make his chicken carcass-filled mannequins do anything other than fall over each other in a grotesque parody of Barbie dolls copulating.

The second attempt was a wee bit overpowered and unfortunately left him with a collapsed cave and some very angry visits from the local authorities after the shock-wave cracked windows, triggered burglar alarms, and scared Mr. Swanson's cows into stampeding through the nearby town... plus it left a huge swath of land down the mountain to stink of rotting chicken for a week before the scavengers had eaten all the chunks. This also gave him the idea to make it a sequential charge instead of one Big Bada-Boom

The last experiment however seemed to be quite all right, and it also gave him the idea to use shock-absorbers to help improve the survivability of the "barrel".

The actual numbers do not need to be specified, because that does not really add anything to the story. Think "Chekhov's Gun" here: do not go into details about elements that do not really add any value.

You asked for science. Well here it is: postulate that he experimented — i.e. used a comedic version of the scientific method — and then "eventually, he got it right".

...or he could just use a rocket engine

An alternate solution would be for your hero to not use a cannon but a rocket engine. A solid fuel rocket booster built into the deep end of the tunnel would provide a spectacular effect. The tunnel will not only be "blown" clear but also absolutely sterilized. Also solid rocket fuel is (usually) a lot safer than black powder. Your hero can even use black powder as rocket fuel. Black powder was actually used in rockets before it was used in guns.

There are a couple of problems with this. The main difficulty would be in obtaining the solid rocket fuel. And also that the tunnel will be glowing hot and probably dripping with molten rock and/or rocket fuel residue.... and also be filled with smoke from the still smoldering rocket engine.

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    $\begingroup$ ad 3. that's what big grain corned gunpowder is for. Sadly, jumbo gunpowder, for 15 inch barrel, generates only about 20% of the pressure standard corned artillery gunpowder does. $\endgroup$
    – Mołot
    Commented Apr 5, 2017 at 8:01
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    $\begingroup$ "the sum of human experience when it comes to black-powder powered 60-inch zombie cannons is — understandably — quite limited" Honestly I really, really like the idea of experimentation. Adds an awful lot to the comedy. $\endgroup$
    – apaul
    Commented Apr 5, 2017 at 8:11
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    $\begingroup$ @apaul34208 That was sort of the idea... 1) to give you as the author a credible way of making him get the numbers right without actually having to specify then and 2) more of the funnies. :) $\endgroup$
    – MichaelK
    Commented Apr 5, 2017 at 8:13
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    $\begingroup$ @apaul34208 The point was not distance... but that you can use sequential charges to decrease the static pressure, thus increasing the survivability of the cave and to achieve the zombie flinging at all. Because - as I said - a big boom does not make zombies go "wheeeeee", it just crushes them and goops them in place. You need a loooong boom instead of a big one to actually eject them. $\endgroup$
    – MichaelK
    Commented Apr 5, 2017 at 8:32
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    $\begingroup$ @apaul34208 Just enough to trigger Suspension Of Disbelief. :) $\endgroup$
    – MichaelK
    Commented Apr 5, 2017 at 8:38

Once you have fixed the hallway as a barrel (not a small feat, more so if you are a barely competent engineer, see @MichaelK answer for how). We don't need cannon speed, just enough to clear the Zombies. There are multiple options:

  1. Make a sabot round. Press the button and then the zombies go...

  2. Go with grapeshot, or a claymore like mine-ish. This will make your zombies smaller. Might want to clean up afterwards...

  3. Don't use black powder at all: use Carbide and a big (gas) container. this will force a large amount of air out of the way and with it zombies.

Now back to your question:

Here's the question. How much black powder would he need to reliably clear a 3x6x25 foot hallway with at least a dozen zombies in it?

If we start looking at Black-powder age Super-guns, that is what you are making after all. There is nothing there on amount of black-powder. But I did find this interesting thing. .50, max load is 120 gr of FFg, the 1.75", max load is 700 grs. (doing some back of the envelope calculations) Yours is about 6 feet across. For ease: 6 * 12 = 72" => 72 / 2 * 700 grs = 25200 grs. Now this could be Grams or Grains. If it is the first, that is 25kg and a bit... Yea, big boom.


  1. The Zombie Cannonballs. While we have no knowledge on black-powder zombie super-guns, we do have quite a bit on Human Cannonballs. Upgrade your gas / bungee system to "that is awesome!".
  • $\begingroup$ 25kg seems doable, but I suspect that my hallway will be filled with viscera... $\endgroup$
    – apaul
    Commented Apr 5, 2017 at 8:18
  • $\begingroup$ The hallway is not it's formers self after any explosion. Might want to stock a broom. Or do a second smaller bast to clear out the viscera... $\endgroup$ Commented Apr 5, 2017 at 8:20
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    $\begingroup$ The idea of a Sabot works well - it prevents the gasses from escaping arount the, er... 'projectiles' in the barrel and will also work to push them out instead of breaking them down. It could quite easilly be a thick false wall with a frame behind to prevent it from falling over, placed in front of the powder store. $\endgroup$
    – Baldrickk
    Commented Apr 5, 2017 at 10:44
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    $\begingroup$ The sabot is a really good idea, as mentioned in MichealK's answer the problem will be the air and force will go around the zombies, whereas a sabot can take all the force and push the zombies out. $\endgroup$ Commented Apr 5, 2017 at 12:58
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    $\begingroup$ Just remember that a barely competent engineer is still competent enough to call himself an engineer. Kind of like "What do you call the guy the graduated at the bottom of his class at med school? Doctor..." $\endgroup$
    – Paul TIKI
    Commented Apr 5, 2017 at 17:41

He doesn't need much gunpowder, because Earth's gravity pull can give a big hand. Slant the hallway slightly. The black powder charge only needs to make the ball start rolling, the rest of the job is gravity's doing.

See the rolling ball trap scene from Indiana Jones.

You can still have the comic puff of smoke and fireballs coming out the other end of the "barrel" just fine, together with the pieces of zombie that were pushed out.

For a more pushing / less crushing solution, put the "ball" on rails and make it slide instead of roll.


If you want to go for laughs, ditch the black powder and use a giant spring behind the back wall.

Or, make it an air cannon. All he needs is to drill out a tall and wide vertical shaft with a very heavily weighted plunger with an air tight seal.

If he's smart enough to place himself downhill of a large water source, he can turn the hall into a water sluice. This would have the benefit of being self cleaning.

There may be too many Saturday morning cartoons in my early years.

  • $\begingroup$ Rather than a spring, use a giant bowstring. You can attach it to the doorframe and stretch it to the backwall and it'll definitely clear out everything in the hallway. $\endgroup$
    – Erik
    Commented Apr 5, 2017 at 18:32
  • $\begingroup$ @Erik, that might miss the crawlers unless the string was connected to the back wall. However that puts the mechanism where it might get damaged. Remember, you don't just have to protect against zombies but against any other survivors who want you nice defensible position. $\endgroup$
    – ShadoCat
    Commented Apr 5, 2017 at 18:43
  • $\begingroup$ Ooooh, Air Cannon. with a chain on the wadding to reel it back for re-use and water power to lift the block for a second shot :) I like it also the water to sluice it out $\endgroup$
    – Paul TIKI
    Commented Apr 5, 2017 at 20:58

In a Cannon, you lose energy by gasses passing around the shot before it leaves the barrel. Shotguns deal with this by using Wadding, or a plastic plug to push the shot along without losing the gasses.

So Crazy Prepper uses this concept. Make the Powder charge sit in the breech behind a wall that is lined with the appropriate wadding material. The powder would probably be best put in a container at roughly the center of the wadding, wall.

For best effect, the "Barrel" of the hallway cannon should be circular. That way if the pressure is uneven, the wall doesn't get lodged in the "barrel"

He could even make a very thick bit of lightweight wadding to help with that. In a shotgun, the wadding carrier is usually thick enough to keep it from turning in the barrel.

Come to think of it, he might just use a thick, semi-Rigid plug of wadding material, chosing to think of the ZOmbies as the "shot"

Edit (for a silly Idea I just had) Use a thick enough chunk of wadding to keep it from rotating and getting stuck in the "Barrel". To the front of the wadding plug, with 3 foot standoffs, mount a series of blades arranged like you would see on an industrial french fry cutter. Better than spikes, even. turn your Z's into more manageable cubes as the projectile slams down the "Barrel" This takes care of the crawlers as well. Just make sure the grid patterns squares are smaller that a normal human head.

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    $\begingroup$ For extra giggles, have the wadding plug be on a long chain so he can real it back in to prepare for his next shot. $\endgroup$
    – ShadoCat
    Commented Apr 5, 2017 at 17:43
  • $\begingroup$ I'm thinking plastic spikes to skewer the Z's on the way out, too :) Just put the spikes at head height. You gotta kill the zombies too. I like the idea of the chain to reel it back in for the next shot., NIce $\endgroup$
    – Paul TIKI
    Commented Apr 5, 2017 at 17:46
  • $\begingroup$ Then I'd make the chain a bit shorter so the chain stops the plug before it loses all of it's momentum. That way it can self clean. Cause, ya'know, that stuff's nasty. $\endgroup$
    – ShadoCat
    Commented Apr 5, 2017 at 17:52
  • $\begingroup$ Recess a water hose connection behind an armor plate in the breech. Then you can just rinse and go. Make the breech door big enough for a pressure washer. $\endgroup$
    – Paul TIKI
    Commented Apr 5, 2017 at 18:55

If you remove your requirement that the zombies have to be "removed" just by the force of the explosion, then nature can provide you an even easier method: Provided that you have a bassin of water close by, which bottom is located higher than the exit of the hallway (which, itself, should be tilted downwards), then you can have a connection between the bottom of your bassin and the hallway itself.

Zombies in the hallway? Open up the valves, and let the water do the rest. Depending on the flow rate and the pressure the zombies don't even feel the water, the shock wave of the wave itself is enough to create a zombie smoothie.

In addition, the protagonist of the story could set the bassin up such that he can refill it within a convenient time period due to additional valves and a high water input, such that recharging is simply a matter of time for him.

Furthermore, he has no problem with cleaning up afterwards, the water does the job for him...


I think you're looking at the problem wrong. We don't want a monstrosity like MichaelK posted. That's heavier than he's going to be able to handle and requires some decent metallurgy to keep from bursting it. Not to mention what the pressure will do to the hallway unless it is also exceedingly strong.

Instead, on the end of the hallway I will place a bunch of much smaller cannons--say 16 or even 25 (assuming it's square. Adjust the numbers if it's not.) Build the array of cannons, then cast them in concrete so the muzzles are flush and the back ends stick out just enough for a fuse.

To fire them you use a fast burning fuse but in a daisy chain configuration so there's a fraction of a second between shots. Each cannon is loaded with a bunch of projectiles, not solid shot.

Since the guns actually fire only one at a time the overpressure in the hallway will be much lower. They will be close enough together that nobody in the hall has a chance to react, though.

To actually clear the hallway of the bodies comes down to how much you throw at them. Ignore the effects of the propellant, it will not have a meaningful effect and if it did you would be back to major overpressure problems. Figure how much hits the zombies and how fast it is going--how much momentum does it impart? Add guns until you have enough sweeping.

You'll probably want some extra cannons near the floor to help sweep it out.


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