# Molten Whirlpool planet

Premise; A magma/lava planet tidally locked around its sun. The side facing the sun is always erupting lava, the dark side is a cooled shell, which sinks into the magma beneath in a global whirlpool.

How feasible is this and what other conditions would need to be met?

my own thought was that if the planet's rotation was along its horizontal axis, with the poles facing to and away from the sun the liquid matter would rotate in a similar manner.

• A planet only rotates on one axis. If it keeps one face toward the star, its axis must be parallel to the orbital axis. Your final sentence doesn’t compute. Commented Apr 2, 2017 at 2:37
• I think uranus rotates in the way i'm thinking, but i may have misunderstood en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranus#Axial_tilt
– Eloc
Commented Apr 2, 2017 at 3:09
• @Eloc Uranus rotates about a horizontal axis (earth has a vertical axis), but the axis doesn't always point to the sun - the sun moves from North Pole to equator to South Pole to equator and back to the North Pole again during a year. Commented Apr 2, 2017 at 4:08
• You could make a physical model to understand it better. Use a piece of fruit, a marker, and a table lamp. Commented Apr 2, 2017 at 4:52
• @Eloc@el I recall there are other questions here discussing the impossibility of a planet keeping its axis pointed at the sun. Commented Apr 2, 2017 at 4:57

(Ignoring your last paragraph)

Well, you need a material that sinks when frozen (most substances do) and a situation of thermal equilibrium. The dark side needs to cool enough to form solids, which sink. The bright side needs to pick up enough heat to melt the same amount of material.

Now why doesn't the back side eventually collect all the solid, building up to a mountain? I expect the top layer to be hottest, so the solids that sink won’t melt there. Why does it freeze over at the top, at all? The cooling material will sink while still liquid.

I imagine a planet wide convection flow, hot on top and cool returning at depth.

Perhaps the surface crust is a different material that floats on the main fluid. Whether solid or liquid it still floats above the inner fluid. But, only in the main downdraft region does it get pulled down since everything is going down. It will float back up once it clears the downdraft. So that might work: you have the appearance of a constant conveyor belt being pulled under, at the darkest antisolar point. The solid rains back up a few miles away, to join the bottom of the material headed toward the sinking zone.

No whirlpool though. The planet doesn’t rotate very fast, so the convection currents will be rather straight.

No eruption either. The hottest spot is a constant upwelling, but it's all liquid. The best you could figure might be to have a thin floating crust made out of a different material, but stays solid even under the hottest point.

It is not feasible. Planets have cores, they are not all goo inside like a jelly donut. Lava would not cycle through it like a perpetual fountain. Even if you had a heavy glacier pressing down on the night side, it would only squish mantel under the nearby crust (glacial rebound), but it wouldn't push lava out the other side.

The most volcanic object in our system is Io. It's stretched and squashed by tidal forces, not solar baking. So you are looking for a planet that is not tidally locked, but tidally ravaged. Especially if we're going to see the lava leaking out from big dramatic sores.

Maybe it could have a resonance orbit like Mercury:

Unfortunately, there are no "dervish" planets that spin with a pole pointing at the Sun. We have some planets that tipped over, but their pole does not turn to keep pointing at the sun. It would have a "north star" that it points to, same as we do.

• uranus' axial tilt doesn't qualify?
– Eloc
Commented Apr 2, 2017 at 3:48
• so i know that they're still theoretical, but this is the type of planet i had in mind en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lava_planet
– Eloc
Commented Apr 2, 2017 at 3:49
• No, Uranus points at it's own North Star all year. It does not point at the Sun. It's just like Earth's axial tilt, but more so. It has summer/winter like we do, just more drastic (well, summer is relative at that distance)…. The Lava Planet on Wiki does not have a swirling drain. Commented Apr 2, 2017 at 4:08
• Don't get "tidal forces" and "tidally locked" confused, they indicate opposite conditions. Tidally locked suggests there is no molten core, the planet is "dead". You want a planet with a lot of tidal forces, so it either has an elliptical orbit that is bringing it closer and further from the Sun, or like Io it is being pulled by multiple nearby bodies. Commented Apr 2, 2017 at 4:17
• Your animation is deceptive in that the frames are not at equal time intervals. In reality the planet's rotation is steady and the orbital velocity is not — the opposite of what is shown. Commented Apr 2, 2017 at 4:55