In an alternate history I am designing, the Mayans and the Aztec start a lot earlier and become much more powerful, domesticated more animals and thus contracting plagues, These plagues spread across the Americas and destroys the population. By the time Columbus arrives, he also brings back diseases while giving them to the Natives.

In this timeline, the colonization of North America does not start until the late sixteenth century and when it does occur, it takes a lot longer. By the time the Europeans successfully colonize Oklahoma, I want Asia to begin travelling across the North Pacific and colonizing the West Coast.

What Asian nations of the sixteenth century would have had the most capacity (resources, technology, skills, personnel) to colonize the West Coast?


closed as primarily opinion-based by Aify, Hohmannfan, Mołot, John Dallman, Frostfyre Sep 14 '16 at 12:16

Many good questions generate some degree of opinion based on expert experience, but answers to this question will tend to be almost entirely based on opinions, rather than facts, references, or specific expertise. If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.

  • 2
    $\begingroup$ Russia did semi-colonize the pacific coastline of North America at one point (1650ish). Or did you want earlier? $\endgroup$ – Twelfth Sep 13 '16 at 19:46
  • 1
    $\begingroup$ The Mughal empire in India was still in it's infancy (even being overthrown but eventually regaining power) in the 16th century. There isn't the same scarcity of land and persecution within Asia that led to the European mass colonization of the Americas. Best answer I can give is pretty heavily altered history. $\endgroup$ – Twelfth Sep 13 '16 at 20:09
  • 5
    $\begingroup$ There was a time when the Chinese were truly successful seafarers. Sadly a little too early ~1400. But since you take some liberties, you might consider it as well. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zheng_He $\endgroup$ – Ludi Sep 13 '16 at 20:34
  • 4
    $\begingroup$ +1 To the Chinese, their treasure fleets during the 15th century made great leaps in exploration. You do not say when in the 16th century colonisation starts butbitbcoukd be before the fall of the Ming dynasty.If you are intrested this BBC radio documentary is worth listening to.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b015p8c2 $\endgroup$ – Sarriesfan Sep 13 '16 at 22:38
  • 1
    $\begingroup$ Yeah but if you go with china, you should mention that the book "1421: The Year China Discovered the World" is actually fact (though the contents wouldn't be the same). You should check other pre-colunbian contact theories. $\endgroup$ – Necessity Sep 13 '16 at 23:51

Well, if you're going for the late 16th century why not have Japan, Korea and China colonize it after Hideyoshi tried to invade China and Korea?

The invasions might have been successfully repelled by the Koreans and Chinese, but it did drain the Chinese treasury and destroyed a good part of the Korean countryside cities. They would most likely be looking to rebuild and restock, what better place to do that than in a whole new land? As for capabilities, the Chinese had quite an impressive Imperial Fleet. from what I read.

Japan on the other hand might be looking to colonize the West Coast either for resources, expansion or simply to thwart the Chinese/Korean efforts. They should have a decent part of the armada left that Nobunaga used for his naval blockade of the Mori clan.

Also, it might be more fun if the Chinese and Koreans joined up to defend themselves against the Japanese. It adds a lot of possibility for a sketchy alliance, where one side is afraid the other will betray them eventually.

This way, you could also have them fight over it if you want, or start a little cold war.


Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged or ask your own question.