I need help figuring out how a species of already low intelligence(orcs) can somewhat efficiently tame and use something like an ogre or a dragon to use in battle against humans.

The intelligence of the Orc compared to an Ogre is comparable of us to apes. Also when you think of Ogre think of something like you'd see in Warcraft not the type that turns to stone when in daylight

I'm developing a game where a race of orcs somehow enslaved the surrounding ogres and can make them fight or gather resources.

  • $\begingroup$ depends,are yours legendary ogres , giant fat people that eat other people or more fantasy creatures that turn to stone when exposed to daylight? $\endgroup$
    – Charon
    Aug 13, 2016 at 19:46
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    $\begingroup$ How smart is the Ogre/dragon? $\endgroup$ Aug 13, 2016 at 19:48
  • $\begingroup$ Think Warcract Ogre and Bellerephon the Dragons are relatively smart but the ogres are like apes $\endgroup$
    – Causticity
    Aug 13, 2016 at 21:42

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It needs to be something they can defeat themselves, with numbers. They'd capture it, cage it, and use pain, plus the threat of more pain, together with food, and the threat of no food, to break down its resistance. Once you have it co-operating, then you can start to train it. This approach doesn't take a lot of brains, but it does require an appetite for being cruel. Most versions of orcs fit the bill.

This will work on D&D-style ogres, but not on a dragon, which can simply kill too many orcs to make the attempt worthwhile.

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    $\begingroup$ If you get the dragon as a hatchling then you just have to make sure it never realises how big it's gotten when it's older... $\endgroup$
    – Perkins
    Sep 9, 2017 at 19:14

I wouldn't 100% base your ogres/orcs/dragons off Warcraft. Indeed, tweek the levels of intelligence. For example, since it's your world, you can make the dragons low-intelligence (maybe smaller in size) and maybe instead of the orcs being the smarter ones, you can make the ogres smarter. Or even dragons enslaving those two races to fight for them.

But as another answer states, think about how whatever race/creature will be captured and enslaved also.


The intelligence of Ogres verse Orcs tends to differ from one fantasy universe to another. However you mentioned Warcraft, so I will go with that.

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Ogres are originally from Draenor like the Orcs. Orcs, particularly some of their shamans, have been shown to be highly intelligent, comparable to that of a human. The Ogres in Warcraft aren't as smart as the Orcs but they still possess some basic intelligence.

Many of the Ogres were enslaved by another race from Draenor called the Gronn, 20ft tall beasts that towered over the Ogres (who were 7ish ft tall). The Orcs helped the Ogres rise up against their cruel masters, and together they defeated the Gronn. Ogres have been fighting as part of the Horde ever since, they were not tamed.

Later on Ogre Mages were created, much smarter ogres who would cast spells, presumably at least of equal intelligence to an average Orc.

Sorry to go on, just upsets me when people go picking on Ogres for being stupid. They have feelings too ya know.

  • $\begingroup$ I appreciate the in depth answer. I'm actually developing a game where I have to create a universe with the ogres being enslaved by the orcs though but I wanted to take inspiration from the Warcraft universe $\endgroup$
    – Causticity
    Aug 13, 2016 at 21:39
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    $\begingroup$ Where does this answer the question? It seems more like a commentary on the intelligence of ogres and orcs in the Warcraft universe. $\endgroup$
    – user
    Aug 13, 2016 at 22:51

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