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Assume that the atmospheric concentration is still the same 78.09% nitrogen, 20.95% oxygen etc, except now just as dense as the Venusian atmosphere. Would humans be able to survive in this atmosphere?

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    $\begingroup$ No, it would be fatal.look at scuba diving information: air is only used down to 100 feet. $\endgroup$ – JDługosz Jul 5 '16 at 12:19
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    $\begingroup$ @JDługosz is that an answer or a comment? =\ $\endgroup$ – corsiKa Jul 5 '16 at 16:46
  • $\begingroup$ I didn't see the answers in the review queue. I posted the comment as I voted to close, thinking it would be in leiu of any answer. $\endgroup$ – JDługosz Jul 5 '16 at 17:56
  • $\begingroup$ I don't know what emotion equals-backslash is meant to convey, so I took your question at face value. $\endgroup$ – JDługosz Jul 5 '16 at 17:58
  • $\begingroup$ See this related question over on Space Exploration.SE. $\endgroup$ – Mark Jul 5 '16 at 21:39
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No.

We'd die very rapidly, because the pressure would be about 90 atmospheres. Oxygen toxicity would probably get us fastest, and nitrogen narcosis would ensure we couldn't do anything sensible. There are probably several other ways this would kill us, but we'd definitely be dead.

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  • $\begingroup$ Depending on how sudden, it might just crush your chest (a few dozen tons of force until things equalize), so you wouldn't need to worry about breathing high partial pressures. I don't know any fluids equations, but jamming a couple liters of gas through your trachea might also be interesting from a physical perspective. $\endgroup$ – Nick T Jul 5 '16 at 2:17
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    $\begingroup$ @NickT What gas? I'm sure you mean superfluidic oxygen. Which would be rather "interesting" to say the least. Read several thousand pounds of TNT detonation of your body interesting. :) $\endgroup$ – Aron Jul 5 '16 at 6:59
  • $\begingroup$ @NickT - The bright lining in that cloud is that If it was such a sudden increase that your lungs couldn't take in enough air to keep you from being crushed, you wouldn't have to worry about being crushed under the pressure anyway since you'd burn up from the heat generated by the rapid compression of the atmosphere. $\endgroup$ – Johnny Jul 5 '16 at 15:46
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    $\begingroup$ Deep sea life, however, would barely notice. The most noticeable thing might be the ocean floor suddenly swamped with bodies of dead sea beasts that didn't like the sudden change of pressure. $\endgroup$ – John Dvorak Jul 5 '16 at 20:33
  • $\begingroup$ I swim every week at 35 meters under water , that's about 110 atmospheres or so ... and guess what ? I'm still alive $\endgroup$ – άλεξ μιζέρια Jul 6 '16 at 20:41
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I agree with nigel222's answer. With much stronger greenhouse heating Earth would be doomed. In fact, if the solar energy received by the Earth were just 5-10% higher this would happen on its own (and is expected to in a few hundred million years).

It's interesting to realize that Earth has several different possible stable climates. Our temperate, habitable planet is just one of (at least) four stable states:

If we had Venus' atmosphere Earth would be a "steamball" planet. Alternately, if Earth were covered in ice, which is very reflective, the surface temperature would plummet and we would be a snowball planet (this is actually thought to have happened at least twice in Earth's history). FYI Venus is currently in the "dry roasted" state.

For more details, see https://planetplanet.net/2016/04/06/no-livable-planets-without-life/

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  • $\begingroup$ Good point -- I removed "above" $\endgroup$ – Sean Raymond Jul 6 '16 at 20:20
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Rather than the full 90 atmospheres, if you dumped ~20-30 atmospheres of helium onto the planet, that might be OK-ish (divers would call this "trimix").

World-record SCUBA dives are about 300 meters (30 atm), but then issues of HPNS occur. More common diving ailments that John refers to are from breathing standard compressed air or oxygen-enriched air.

Extremely bizarre mixes also include hydrogen ("hydrox"), and this mix got a diver down to a simulated 700 meters (in a chamber). Flammable gases require a certain mix ratio with air to actually burn: too much and it actually won't light. So maybe(?) the air wouldn't explode?.

So maybe there is some mix of gases that would allow humans to actually live at 90 atmospheres. You'll probably kill a lot of people though.

In the meanwhile:

  • Water basically no longer evaporates.
  • Earth's water cycle is gone. No more rain.
  • Plants and animals in places that are hot/warm die because they cannot cool themselves
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    $\begingroup$ "maybe the air wouldn't explode" $\endgroup$ – John Dvorak Jul 5 '16 at 20:37
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That would be so hot!

No, seriously. The temperature of a gas is directly proportional to the product of its volume and pressure. Supposing you are increasing pressure like that, and keeping everything else the same... You'll roughly make the air 90x hotter than usual.

And that's counting from the absolute zero, not from F or C. ~27000 Kelvin is definitely not cool.

Just a minor edit: I am focusing on the suddenly word in the question. I am thinking of suddenly as instantaneously. Obviously such an atmosphere wouldn't last a minute. That is hotter than white-hot, and Earth would shine brighter than the sun. Most, if not all of the gas mass (and a lot of solids and liquids would become gaseous at that temperature, even at that pressure!) in the atmosphere would quickly disperse into space because each molecule would be moving faster than the escape velocity for Earth. A few minutes later and we would actually have no atmosphere at all. The surface of the planet would also be quite charred.

If John Dallman's answer hasn't killed everything yet, this one will take whatever's left.

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    $\begingroup$ Your calculation is not valid. You can have any volume of gas at any pressure and temperature, given different amounts of gas. You ar probably thinking of a process like adiabatic compression that indeed heats up the compressed gas. $\endgroup$ – jknappen Jul 5 '16 at 9:57
  • $\begingroup$ The question is not about surviving the change in atmospheric density/pressure, but the new, stable conditions. Venus does not experience surface temperatures of 2700K, either (though it is a hellhole). Also, the temperature depends on volume, pressure *and the number of particles - pV = NkT. Higher temperature would not be needed, more particles suffice.) $\endgroup$ – Chieron Jul 5 '16 at 11:54
  • $\begingroup$ PV = T : you are misreading that. $\endgroup$ – JDługosz Jul 5 '16 at 12:23
  • $\begingroup$ assume 90 atmospheres, then Temperature/Volume is constant, but you can have any temperature (but you need to change volume accordingly) $\endgroup$ – GameDeveloper Jul 5 '16 at 13:37
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Not human life, and most likely no complex life forms, but possibly some life at the extremes.

The Venusian atmosphere at about 50 km has pressure near Earth normal with temperatures of only 75C. not exactly completely hostile to all life. Extremophiles have been found living at greater than 122C.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Venus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremophile

Some extremophile bacteria may survive in the upper atmosphere or deep underground.

At least on Earth, life seams to survive most places, even those we wouldn't expect; the arctic waste, deep underground, undersea vents without light, everywhere we've looked there is some bacterial life present.

My first thought was deep sea vent life, but at the temperatures and pressures in play the oceans would boil so I think they would be dead too.

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  • $\begingroup$ The temperature is partly because Venus is closer to the sun (gets more heat) and has a high amount of CO2 (keeps more heat). $\endgroup$ – Nick T Jul 5 '16 at 2:19
  • $\begingroup$ Yeah I used the Venus numbers as worst case, it would still be a hot dense hell, but something might survive. $\endgroup$ – Josh King Jul 5 '16 at 3:03
  • $\begingroup$ people in submarines would survive. $\endgroup$ – Donald Hobson Jul 5 '16 at 10:48
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No. Earth would rapidly die. This because water vapour is a greenhouse gas.

If the planet warms, then once all the ice at the poles has melted the temperature stabilizes. If the planet tries to warm further, more water evaporates, more clouds form, more sunlight is reflected off the top of the clouds, and this more than counteracts the warming effect of the extra water vapour. It's a simple negative feedback loop and it represents the ice-free state of earth throughout most of the history of life.

The negative feedback loop turns into a positive feedback run-away once cloud cover reaches 100%. More water vapor in the atmosphere increases global warming which evaporates more water which increases global warming, until the oceans all boil and the planet has turned into a somewhat cooler version of Venus. Some airborne microbes might manage to adapt to life in the uppermost cloud-tops, but I doubt it.

The sun is getting hotter as it ages. This is the probable fate of life on Earth, many hundreds of millions of years hence, but well before the Sun goes nova.

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  • $\begingroup$ I was talking loosely. Future of Earth and sun here en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_of_the_Earth. In brief: Sun bloats into a red giant which may engulf the Earth. It then collapses into a white dwarf, blowing off its outer stellar atmosphere. $\endgroup$ – nigel222 Jul 5 '16 at 19:05
  • $\begingroup$ @amaranth that's because the sun engulfed the Earth on that timeline $\endgroup$ – Wayne Werner Jul 5 '16 at 20:03

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