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I've always liked the idea of scythes. Their connotation of death and reaping is always satisfying. But they're also a polearm, and that could make for some interesting martial feats. But nearly every discussion I see claims they would be useless as a weapon, due to the poor length/area of cutting edge, inward-facing blade, etc. Without moving the curved blade and/or its position (unless it shifts back and forth), what other problems does a scythe pose, how can I write them away, and most of all, what benefits would a "traditional"-esque scythe have in combat?

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    $\begingroup$ Have a look to this wikipedia entry : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_scythe $\endgroup$ – Kii Nov 24 '15 at 14:28
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    $\begingroup$ Two words: Wheat People. $\endgroup$ – Doug Warren Nov 24 '15 at 20:24
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    $\begingroup$ One of the primary criticisms I've seen is that a traditional field scythe's blade could be cut off by a sword fairly easily, making its hooking potential less attractive; constructing the scythe shaft out of metal would make it harder for enemies to lop off the blade. This construction process would be much more expensive, so if you made an entire civilization whose specialty weapon was the scythe, you could easily illustrate class/caste disparity by the material a person's scythe was made of. I like the idea of a scythe-centric civilization :) $\endgroup$ – CCJ Nov 24 '15 at 23:42
  • $\begingroup$ @ccj, cutting a scythe handle with a sword is not going to happen, not unless you have a lot of time to hack at it. It would be like trying to cut through a baseball bat. $\endgroup$ – John Feb 3 '17 at 4:28
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TL;DR: It can and has been done, although not with the exact same scythe you'd use for grass or wheat.

Well, people have used scythes (or more accurately, sickles) as weapons in combat. Most notable example is a kama, and a khopesh is also superficially similar, so perhaps you could have those and say they evolved from sickles.

The reason for use of sickles rather than scythes is that a scythe is a relatively modern thing; the long blade needed to make one work could not be manufactured reliably before steel became widely available. That's why people used shorter sickles instead, and adapted them as weapons.

You already seem to have a good idea of the disadvantages, but consider that a battle-scythe would probably be quite unlike a field-scythe (much like a battleaxe is quite different from a woodsman's axe). You could definitely add a spike for stabbing, make the blade shorter and thicker (and hence more durable), but at this point it seems to me we are arriving at an elongated halberd. Which, on the other hand, has a good service record, so you might just design a halberd differently and call it a scythe.

As for the advantages, the form of the weapon gives you a pretty good grip for slashing, and the perpendicular blade is good for hooking (much like and axe or halberd would be used), which is useful when facing people with shields.

But the main advantage is that in a mediaeval/fantasy setting, you can easily recruit a lot of people who are already trained with their weapons (ie. peasant farmers), if you can figure out a simple drill to let them transition from a field scythe to your battle-scythe. This is an important consideration, which has in practice led to development of war flails, voulges and war scythes, all of which have been used to great effect in warfare (the above three notably in the Hussite rebellions, which were essentialy a popular movement and defeated five separate crusades called against them).

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    $\begingroup$ Good point about the sickles, the khopesh is pretty much my favorite type of sword. Not that I've ever used one, not entirely sure how that would work, but it looks cool. Other than that, I'd agree with your point about halberds; they were already so useful and made so many different ways, might as well just call one of them a scythe and be done with it. $\endgroup$ – DaaaahWhoosh Nov 24 '15 at 20:02
  • $\begingroup$ define modern, the viking had scythes. It was invented in 500BC $\endgroup$ – John Feb 3 '17 at 4:34
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The Scythe might need a few modifications for any kind of combat. the biggest on would be to have a longer collar attaching it to the handle, otherwise, it will likely be cut off after a few blocks or perrys.

giving the collar a little edge wouldn't hurt either.enter image description here,

In a single combat situation, it might be used to delimb an opponent, but I suspect the scythe wielder would have to be much more proficient than their opponent. If the scythe is a symbol of death, and the wielders dress the part, they may be able to intimidate their opponents into mistakes.

The one situation that I could see the scythe being a possible devastating weapon would be when attacking a shield wall like the Romans had, the long handle could keep you out of range of the gladius and the long 90 degree blade could reach down over the shield wounding the holder and possibly yanking the shield out of their hands and the wall

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    $\begingroup$ I don't think that use-case you described would work; field scythe blades are pretty thin so they can be easily sharpened, which would make them bend when you try to stab with the point. You'd first have to make it shorter and thicker. $\endgroup$ – Mike L. Nov 24 '15 at 14:39
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    $\begingroup$ @MikeL. yes that would be another adjustment needed to the blade, but the technique has merit $\endgroup$ – bowlturner Nov 24 '15 at 14:43
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    $\begingroup$ That it certainly has, hooking is a perfectly legitimate thing to do with a polearm; it should just be durable enough to survive the attempt. $\endgroup$ – Mike L. Nov 24 '15 at 14:47
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    $\begingroup$ I'm not sure it would work more than once. The first time the defenders would be caught off guard for such a strange attack. The second time they would hold their shields tightly and smash the pole over their shield, breaking it in 2. Also using a pole to pull doesn't work well. Humans aren't actually very good at pulling, and most weapons avoid pulling actions because of it. $\endgroup$ – Trevor D Mar 6 at 15:33
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Since you're giving me "in a (slightly) less-realistic world?" to work with I feel like a couple of potential options present themselves.

For starters it's possible that an entire form of martial arts has been developed around the use of the scythe (and possibly other farming implements) as a means of dealing with frequent raids or attacks in a largely agricultural nation. As such no extra weapons are required citizens don't have to "beat swords back to plowshares" they can literally just keep using the same tools for farming and combat.

The other would be something you mention about the blade shifting back and forth. Simple spring loaded locks near the handle could allow the blade to snap into a combat scythe shape at the push of a trigger. This would take it from farm mode to war mode in an instant; and then properly trained peasants can form something like pike men lines to stop cavalry or the like.

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The tool is in fact a well-refined design for its purpose. In Midnight at rhe Well of Souls, one species is described as feirce fighters that resemble blades of grass! So, the scythe would be the right weapon in this situation, and it occorred in a book that sold a million copies, so it’s reasonable to have such an enemy it seems.

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  • $\begingroup$ What a great book. Chalker was so unrated, that series was terrific. $\endgroup$ – WRX Feb 2 '17 at 22:07
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I would say that a good way would be to slightly change the make up of the weapon, but leave it still recognizable as a scythe. one of the biggest problems with scythes as weapons is the fact that it's only edged on the inside of the blade and not the outside, so I would say make the blade a tad thicker and edge it on both sides of the blade.

Another thing is that the weapon is unwieldy and off balance, so properly setting a center of gravity into the staff by some type of reinforcement would be necessary. Adding some type of counterweight on the bottom of the blade could actually double as a clubbing device as well.

Last but not least you would need the proper fighting style, as a scythe is again very unwieldy the style of fighting would inevitably be very momentum based, a tad similar to a bo staff's fighting style, a lot of fancy footwork and twirling and spinning to build up momentum and keep yourself protected, as well as enabling more than one attack in a single push, allowing you to twist the blade around into multiple strikes.

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I may be a little late, but I've actually designed a prototype for a scythe which I believe to be usable in combat.

First I've reduced its total length to 56 inches and increased it's blade head side to 30 inches. Next I decided to add a bayonet-type thing to the other side of the head to allow stabbing and protect the shaft a little, I've also added a spearhead at the bottom of the shaft. To reduce the weight of the weapon a little I made the shaft out of a kind of fiberglass reinforced nylon which is lighter and more durable than wood. Finally I added a semi-sheath for the blunt side of the blade.

If you see any issue with my design please tell me. Hope I answered your question.

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    $\begingroup$ Welcome to WorldBuilding! Do you happen to have any illustrations, either a sketch of your design if it is imagined, or a photo if you have actually built one? $\endgroup$ – cobaltduck Feb 2 '17 at 21:26
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    $\begingroup$ I'd like to see it, too. $\endgroup$ – WRX Feb 2 '17 at 22:06
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A bit late, but maybe making the pole arm out of a strong, flexible metal would work. Allowing the scythes cutting edge to bend outward creating a better angle of attack. It would also catch someone off guard if they weren't prepared for it.

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  • $\begingroup$ This is kind of one of those answers where "if this technology existed, you could do this" answers, that falls apart when you think, well that technology could build better weapons, so why bother? $\endgroup$ – Trevor D Mar 6 at 15:29

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