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I was looking to add this premise of a weapon for a character I'm writing. I remembered this style existed in Breath of the Wild as an Eightfold Blade. While it does have a hilt, it is only a very small circular guard with no ricasso. The main thing that I'm focusing on is the name of swords that have the little hook mini-blade near the hilt, similar to a hook sword in strategy yet more simplified.

Eightfold Blade

At first, I thought the hook was a Schilden, but Schilden tend to have their tips pointing perpendicular to the blade (below), and not like the Eightfold Blade in the picture.

Greatsword featuring a Schilden

Is there any historical name for this type of sword, or is it just fantasy? If so, what is the closest historical classification?

Eightfold Blade

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    $\begingroup$ I suspect the exact configuration is pure fantasy, as it would be easier to have the upswept bit be part of the crossguard rather than the blade. $\endgroup$
    – Daron
    Mar 13 at 16:16
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    $\begingroup$ So what is "hook sword .. strategy" then? // @Daron is likely right about the depiction probably being pure fantasy, but that aside the only reasonable use for what's shown is as a tool to catch an opponents blade and then either break it or twist it from the opponents grasp with a twist of the wrist. $\endgroup$
    – Pelinore
    Mar 13 at 17:41
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    $\begingroup$ Since you are asking purely about real world weapons, and your example is not from a story of your own creation, this probably a better question to ask on history.se ... now if you wish to know how one might prefer to use such a weapon, WB could be on topic since the original martial arts behind this style of weapon are lost to time. $\endgroup$
    – Nosajimiki
    Mar 13 at 18:15
  • $\begingroup$ I'm not entirely sure this question deserves close votes.... Identification of technology is only slightly different than asking a real-world question about technology. Granted, I no longer agree that we should permit real-world questions in the context of the current policy... but could a close voter explain exactly how this isn't about worldbuilding (remember that real-world question policy...)? $\endgroup$
    – JBH
    Mar 13 at 22:49
  • $\begingroup$ I was trying to see if this design existed in the first place, but now that I know it does, this question is probably better suited on martial arts.se $\endgroup$ Mar 14 at 0:26

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There's similar weapons in Japan

Jitte

A hook on a blugeon sword-like item is well known as a Jitte. The hook is a parrying device and to disarm an opponent. enter image description here^

kabutowari

An offshoot of the normal sword is the Kabutowari, literally "Helmet-breaker" or "Skull-breaker". The more common type with a hook is the truncheon type, which is similar to the blunt Tekkan. The hook is a parrying device. enter image description here

Dirk type Kabutowari may have some sharpness and a piercing tip, but typically the hook is on the backside as with all of them. enter image description here

In either case the hook is formed out of the same piece of metal.

Sai

Similar, but a piercing weapon, is the Sai. Usually they have two hooks to catch blades, but one hook and one guard style exist. It is very similar to the Tepki and related to it. The hooks are used to catch and then twist a weapon from the attacker's hands. enter image description here

There is a popular weapon in China

Sai have found their way into Chinese martial arts, but china also has its own styles:

Hook Sword/shuang gou

shuang gou feature hooks on either side of the grip, forming a parrying surface and hilt guard, and a hooked tip. They are used in pairs to disarm the enemy.

enter image description here

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I will add to Trish's answer (Edit: The image is now part of Trish's answer proper) that if you follow the Wikipedia link to Kabutowari, you get a picture of a supposed metal one of those:

enter image description here

Looks pretty real to me. Guess I was wrong about the exact configuration. I wonder how they attach the hook part.

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    $\begingroup$ it's not attached, it is forged in one part. $\endgroup$
    – Trish
    Mar 13 at 18:15
  • $\begingroup$ @Trish That sounds like a something you need to be highly skilled to do properly. $\endgroup$
    – Daron
    Mar 14 at 11:36
  • $\begingroup$ Actually it's rather simple, if you cut out of a larger piece of plate. And drawing out a hook from a simple bar is not much harder than forming a tang^^ $\endgroup$
    – Trish
    Mar 14 at 11:45
  • $\begingroup$ @Trish I will defer to your expertise :-) $\endgroup$
    – Daron
    Mar 14 at 12:43

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