# What would be the consequences of detonating all nuclear weapons on the edge of space?

In today's Dr McNinja, the Vice President of the US (who is also a wizard) detonated all of Russia's nuclear weapons on the edge of space at once:

Copyright belongs to Christopher Hastings, 2015. Source: http://drmcninja.com/archives/comic/31p06/

Since Russia alone has more than enough nukes to end civilization, let's take it Up To Eleven and say Vice President Wizard destroys all other nuclear weapons as well, citing that "noone, not even President Radical, should need this much radness".

According to the most recent estimates, there are over 17,000 nuclear weapons. What would happen to Earth if all these weapons were detonated all at once on the edge of space (which we set at 100 km high for the sake of clarity)?

• If anyone thinks they can put better tags on this question than just "science-based", feel free to add them. – Nzall Aug 14 '15 at 18:17

Massive EMP followed by global fallout.

A nuclear EMP occurs when a nuclear device is detonated in the atmosphere. This wouldn't destroy all our electronics, but it would most likely knock out all the power grids. While people are sitting in the dark, days to weeks after detonation, they may notice a metallic taste in the air.

We would avoid a nuclear winter situation because there wouldn't be significant soot/smoke put into the atmosphere. However, there would still be 17,000 nuclear weapons worth of radioactive material in the upper atmosphere raining down across the globe. Areas along the jet stream would be most affected, but no one will avoid being irradiated. It's difficult to determine the effect of this, but with so many weapons there is a good chance that everyone gets a lethal dose of radiation. When the US was testing weapons in the Nevada from 1951-1962, everyone downwind was irradiated.

In the worst cases, people got around 12-16 rads. Although one government report said that:

children living in St. George, Utah may have received doses to the thyroid of radioiodine as high as 120 to 440 rads

For humans, whole body LD50 for acute radiation syndrome is 400 rads. This is from fewer than 100 above ground tests over 11 years. Detonating 16,000 at once will easily provide enough radiation to harm or kill everyone on Earth.

• Also air travel would be quite hazardous. The further up you go the less protection from radiation the atmosphere gives you. This scenario would be no exception. – Mystra007 Aug 14 '15 at 19:04
• While I think you assestment is technically correct I think you are missing a few things. First read en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-altitude_nuclear_explosion which goes over all known nuclear tests at high altitude. Here is the thing the EMP is most likely not in range of anything on the planet but it is close enough to take out most of out anything in orbit. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/… – James Aug 14 '15 at 20:27
• @James Did you do that thing where you don't read the thing you suggested I read? A Soviet nuke detonated at 290 km (almost three times higher than all these nukes) "The EMP fused 570 km of overhead telephone line with a measured current of 2,500 A, started a fire that burned down the Karaganda power plant, and shut down 1,000-km of shallow-buried power cables between Aqmola and Almaty." The EMP generation occurs at 30-50 km above the surface, so at 100 km, all the nukes would generate EMPs. – Samuel Aug 14 '15 at 20:36
• I guess I read it wrong, so depending on where he detonated it he basically sent that side of the planet into the stone age. – James Aug 14 '15 at 20:47
• "Detonating 16,000 at once will easily provide enough radiation to harm or kill everyone on Earth". Eh, no. I'm sorry but radiation is still not black magic that kills EVERYONE as soon as you get in touch with it. If so you would have killed yourself with your own radioactivity by now. Yes, you are in fact radioactive. As is your food, the sky above you, the ground beneath you, the sea you swim in. Detonate 16 000 warheads "at the edge of space", gives you a 100+ km thick globe-spanning atmosphere to dilute the fallout in. And that will be more than enough to get it down to safe levels. – MichaelK Sep 4 '15 at 16:37

Besides EMP and radioactive fallout, the detonation of thousands of nuclear weapons at the edge of the atmosphere would also have many of the effects we recognize as being part of a nuclear attack.

The release of energy from the nuclear weapons will send a flood of high energy radiation and photons streaming outwards in a spherical shell around each detonation. The X ray pulse causes the EMP burst, but the ground will also be irradiated with high energy gamma rays, as well as huge amounts of infra red radiation. The gamma rays (and neutrons) will deliver high doses of radiation to the ground, while the "thermal pulse" will ignite exposed flammable materials. Assuming the nuclear weapons are detonated roughly evenly around the world, you have just initiated a globe spanning firestorm. The world will not be able to deal with this, as power grids are down, eliminating things like water pumping or even communications grids to dispatch fire fighters (most of whom will be dying from radiation poisoning anyway).

So the effort to create world peace by destroying nuclear weapons is going to result in the peace of the grave. Detonating nuclear weapons in the atmosphere or even near space will be almost as bad as an all out nuclear war. The only "benefits" of doing it this way are the amount of radioactive fallout is reduced (no ground bursts to suck up soil and irradiate it along with the release of radioactive materials from the bomb itself), and the shockwaves of nuclear detonations will be largely dissipated by the thinness of the atmosphere and the distance from the ground.