So, I have 3 species of eusocial animals in this world, however for now I'll just be talking about this one considering the other two have fairly obvious answers for how they would murder large Dragons (size, being stupidly resistant, and just sheer numbers, with their larva eating meat and one of them being extremely territorial).

They are Eusocial Wyverns that live in groups of normally a thousand or so individuals that do not morph aside from size when fitting a certain Caste (similar to Naked Mole-Rats and some Bee species), strong bite, sharp teeth, and an stinger at the end of their tail with a breath weapon as a possibility. They are about the size of rats.

For these reasons, I doubt humans would pose much of a problem (who wants to deal with wasps the size of rats?), not to mention they pollinate crops and hunt down pests such as mice, rats, and other similarly sized animals.

The dragons they would have to deal with every once in a while are about the size of elephants when they're adults and are assumed to have a breath weapon. Their main goal would be to eat the equivalent of their larva and possibly a honey-like substance they produce to feed them during the winter.

The eusocial wyvern's goal is to chase off the dragon at the very least regardless of their breath weapon, how would they do so?

  • $\begingroup$ We're missing some plot details here... do you want them to be able to deal with dragons? Why would they have to fight off dragons? What's in it for the dragons? $\endgroup$ Mar 28 at 16:18
  • $\begingroup$ Protein rich food source that lives in large groups, not to mention a possible honey substance similar to how bears raid bee hives for the larva and honey. $\endgroup$ Mar 28 at 16:20
  • $\begingroup$ OK, that's great, please add all relevant details to the question. Presumably if this is a bee-bear relationship, then the answer to this question is "they don't", they just have to survive the attack. $\endgroup$ Mar 28 at 16:21
  • $\begingroup$ They would likely want to chase off the dragon before any damage could be done to the hive, or at least minimize it (like what bees try to do with bears, with some success depending on the species) hence the question "how would they deal with large Dragons." They don't need to kill the dragon per say (even if they wouldn't mind), just chase it off at the very least. $\endgroup$ Mar 28 at 16:24

They cook the dragon.

bee ball


Your wyverns are bee analogues. Your dragon is a killer hornet. As the hornet is immune to any sting or bite a bee might have, so too the dragon is immune to the weaponry of the wyvern. The hornet is not vulnerable to individual bees. Together, the bees have an emergent property.

With a two-inch-long body and a 3-inch wingspan, the hornet is enormous – many times larger than the bees. But the honeybees have evolved a unique defense mechanism: When a hornet invades a honeybee hive, as many as 500 bees gang up and form a tight ball around the attacker. The heat from the bees’ vibrating wings and the carbon dioxide they respire proves a deadly combination. In less than an hour, the hornet is dead.

Your wyverns do the same. They cluster around the dragon and shortcircuit their breath weapons to heat up their entire bodies and keep them hot. The dragon is cooked alive. Most of the wyverns involved die too, either in the ball or later.

The hive survives.


What is the relationship?

Eusociality almost by definition involves a caste system, so I'm not sure if your wyverns meet the technical definition, but that's semantics. However, without a caste system, every individual represents a reproductive unit and has an evolutionary incentive to avoid self destruction unless it is clearly to the benefit of their own gene group. Consider a caste system, or possibly rethink what the relationship between the dragons and the wyverns and humans looks like.

  • Bury their hive underground, with the desirable parts in areas dragons can't reach.
  • Evolve toxins that poison dragons but not wyverns, then exude those into their honey and the eggs(?)/larvae by adding them to the food used to produce honey or the food fed to larvae. This can be the same poison they have in their stingers.
  • Have hostility behaviors where the wyverns constantly snipe at dragons within their territories, poisoning them slowly to discourage the dragon from even being in the general area. Wyverns might seek out dragon nests and kill their young or steal/break eggs to eliminate threats. If dragons are intelligent or organized, this may eventually cause them to develop strategies to get rid of wyverns.
  • Pick climates that are less friendly to dragons. If dragons are in mountains to avoid pesky knights in shining armor, then wyverns live close to people and at low altitudes. This can even be a symbiotic relationship if wyverns help human crops, and the two groups may eventually learn to accommodate each other like humans and bees. Humans might even build wyvern nests to attract wyverns, with secret tunnels into them to allow surreptitious 'honey' collection.
  • If dragons and wyverns are closely related, there may be some exotic relationships that evolve. The larvae may be captured by dragons who want wyvern pets/servants. If so, the wyverns may find themselves domesticated and in a symbiotic relationship with dragons who value their use against humans as well as the 'honey' supply, while the wyverns start treating the dragon like a queen. Conversely, wyverns may steal dragon eggs to raise as protectors, possibly even somehow pithing the dragon to make it less likely to destroy the hive. Perhaps dragons constantly exposed to wyvern toxin develop differently and behave like a different species.
  • $\begingroup$ All these are nice ideas to think about, all of these sound like fun ideas. I actually just checked out the page on Eusociality (namely the Naked Mole Rat) and by the looks of it their colonies would be more like the Mole Rats (as in there's a queen, with larger members act as soldiers while smaller ones act like workers, with no other morphical differences which I what originally meant, so oops). $\endgroup$ Mar 28 at 17:03

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