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I'm creating a fictional world which includes tree dwelling octopuses that thrives in swamps and tropical rainforests.

I'm wondering what evolutionary pressures could lead to the rise of such creatures.

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  • $\begingroup$ Just to ask for some quick clarification, do your creatures need to be evolved from sea-living octopodes, or merely creatures that resemble octopodes? $\endgroup$ Feb 21, 2020 at 19:08
  • $\begingroup$ Am I going insane or does that tree critter have 10 limbs? $\endgroup$
    – Joe Bloggs
    Feb 21, 2020 at 19:16
  • $\begingroup$ Don't have time for a full answer, but a tree dwelling octopus sounds surprisingly plausible to me... $\endgroup$
    – Plutian
    Feb 21, 2020 at 19:18
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    $\begingroup$ @JoeBloggs -- I assure you: those are just left-overs of the other tree dwelling octopus that this one just ate. $\endgroup$
    – elemtilas
    Feb 21, 2020 at 19:21
  • $\begingroup$ Might be worth waiting a day or so to select an answer. Someone in a different time zone might well have a much better idea than me! $\endgroup$
    – Joe Bloggs
    Feb 21, 2020 at 19:42

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Predators in a mollusc rich mangrove swamp.

This particular mangrove swamp is part of the river delta of a huge river network (think amazon). The nutrient and particulate rich water is nirvana for various molluscs and bivalves.

Your octopoids (like many real world octopuses) eat molluscs, so this swamp is also nirvana for them. The salinity of the swamp can be fudged towards more or less salty to support the kind of creature you want.

Now, this swamp also contains some nasty predators. Pirhana analogues, or voracious otters, or eels. These predators would make short work of the octopoids, except for one small fact.

The octopoids can move well out of water too.

In tidal areas in our world octopuses often travel short distances across exposed rock to exploit trapped prey in tide pools. Your octopoids prey on molluscs on tidal flats where they can often eat without fear of predation.

At some point one or two of your octopoids also realised they could climb the mangrove roots. This gave them an advantage over their mud-dwelling cousins because they could prey on the deeper water molluscs and still have a viable escape route from the predators. Evolution took over and boom: low level tree climbing octopoids.

Now: laying eggs just above the waterline (so they get periodically soaked but spend a long time out of reach of predators) is a desired trait. Eggs that can spend longer out of the water are more likely to survive. The ability to lay eggs higher is a desirable trait in a sexual partner.

Again: evolution takes over. Eventually an open air egg develops, but the ability to lay eggs high remains desirable, so octopoids climb higher and higher.

Octopoids now have to evolve thicker, more waterproof skins so they can spend longer out of water. These skins also come in handy (along with the throttling, entangling, very strong tentacles) for dealing with their new arboreal neighbours, none of whom are sufficiently equipped or ready to deal with the writhing tentacular doom machines that are now encroaching on their leafy paradise.

Octopoids that can spend long periods out of water and climb to the uppermost branches discover an alternative food source in fresh fruit, bird eggs and the corpses of asphyxiated monkeys. They start to outcompete their purely mollusc-bound brethren.

And your tree-dwelling octopoid is born.

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    $\begingroup$ Brilliant answer. Would love to see an actual tree dwelling octopus like this. The only thing I would add is they might also evolve a thicker skin or carapace to offset the gravitational change, and be more resilient to the tree dwelling foes they might face instead. $\endgroup$
    – Plutian
    Feb 21, 2020 at 20:06
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    $\begingroup$ @Plutian gotta admit I assumed any arboreal predators would just be so weirded out they’d leave the octopoids the hell alone. I’ll add a bit about it though! $\endgroup$
    – Joe Bloggs
    Feb 21, 2020 at 20:15
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    $\begingroup$ Never actually seen a hungry predator go "sorry but this prey is too weird to eat." still, their brai. Not being constantly flattened by their lack of bone structure would be big pro for them... $\endgroup$
    – Plutian
    Feb 21, 2020 at 20:21
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    $\begingroup$ @plutian: What’s that? You usually kill prey by grasping them in your talons? How about I let you grab me and then just squish a bit before fouling your wings with my tentacles, dropping you into the water and drowning you? That sound good? $\endgroup$
    – Joe Bloggs
    Feb 21, 2020 at 20:28
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    $\begingroup$ I was just going to comment that. I'd hate to be the generation of birds to figure out that's a really bad idea. $\endgroup$
    – Plutian
    Feb 21, 2020 at 20:41

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