# Appropriate liquid/solvent for life in my underground environment on Venus

Partly inspired by this question

My Venusians are happy in their cloud top city when a small group somehow (with lots of handwaving) crashes to the surface, falls underground, and ends up in a hidden cavern. Our Venusians are in some sort of vehicle that can survive the local conditions, and like caves on earth the conditions in this underground cavern are similar to those above ground. To everyone's surprise they find life living in "pools" in the cavern.

I'm going with pools because (duh!) everyone likes/expects there to be underground lakes/rivers. Also I generally expect liquids to be a requirement for life anyway, as their ability to dissolve other chemicals and act as a medium to speed up chemical reactions is very important for all earth life.

Obviously though these "pools" are not composed of liquid water. Earth gets water lakes, Titan gets methane lakes, but what does Venus get? Given what we know of Venus, are there any plausible candidates for chemicals that would be liquid at VSTP (Venus Standard Temperature and Pressure) and might actually be around in enough quantities to form pools?

There is already a lot of handwaving going on, so if need be I'm happy to loosen the "present in sufficient quantities" requirement.

Venus temperature are enough to melt lead. So, go for it!

Lead is a relatively unreactive post-transition metal. Its weak metallic character is illustrated by its amphoteric nature; lead and lead oxides react with acids and bases, and it tends to form covalent bonds. Compounds of lead are usually found in the +2 oxidation state rather than the +4 state common with lighter members of the carbon group. Exceptions are mostly limited to organolead compounds.

Moreover, lead can form chains like carbon:

Lead can form multiply-bonded chains, a property it shares with its lighter homologs in the carbon group. Its capacity to do so is much less because the Pb–Pb bond energy is over three and a half times lower than that of the C–C bond.

• This would have the benefit of also leading directly into metal-based life forms, which are always fun in sci-fi... – conman May 16 at 14:32

# Supercritical carbon dioxide

Once upon a time, Venus may have had seas of supercritical $$\text{CO}_2$$ ($$\text{scCO}_2$$) thanks to a higher surface temperature (by a few hundred Kelvin) and surface pressures (by a factor of 3 or so). However, now that the atmospheric pressure has dropped to about 9.3 MPa, this is no longer feasible aboveground; while there is plenty of $$\text{scCO}_2$$ to go around, you're unlikely to find pools of it anymore on the surface.

In subsurface oceans, however, supercritical $$\text{CO}_2$$ could still exist, and it would be a decent solvent for some enzymes. Trace amounts of water would be required, but Venus does indeed have such trace amounts in its atmosphere. Under the right conditions, $$\text{scCO}_2$$ may fit your requirements.

## The enzymes

1. Lipases, which are involved in the hydrolysis of fats
2. Phosphatases, although these typically function optimally with water as a solvent
3. Dehydrogenases, used in certain oxidation reactions; these may involve NAD$$^+$$ (used in glycolysis) and NADP$$^+$$
4. Oxidases, which are used in oxidation-reduction reactions, such as part of the electron transport chain
5. Amylases, used to form sugars from starch

We need to be careful, though, as these enzymes can denature and lose their structure at many of the temperatures at which $$\text{CO}_2$$ is supercritical. Furthermore, under some conditions, $$\text{scCO}_2$$ can inhibit enzyme function, which is why it can be used for sterilization.

## Experimental cases

Apparently (see the previous paper), $$\text{scCO}_2$$ has been shown to increase reaction rates in several types of bacteria; for example, it helped E. coli and Saccharomyces cerevisiae (a yeast) using $$\alpha$$-amylase, the most important amylase in most animals. This occurred at 20 MPa and 308 K.

There is one obvious answer if you discard the "pools" requirement: supercritical carbon dioxide. That is already used as a solvent for organic materials in industrial chemical engineering (e.g., for extracting caffeine from coffee beans). However, at Venus's surface it might be too far towards the gas-like end of the phase to be a really good biosolvent, so...

As a backup, I'd look at molten metallic salts. This class of chemicals has a wide range of melting points, from below STP up past VSTP, so some specific salt or eutectic mixture of salts ought to work. Hal Clement used molten copper chloride as the primary biosolvent for the aliens in Iceworld (spoiler: Iceworld is Earth; from the aliens' perspective, our planet is so frigid they could never have imagined life forming here; I mean, sulfur is a friggin' solid for gosh sakes!) That has a melting point slightly above VSTP, but that could be remedied by mixing with a second salt to lower the melting point of the mixture.