# Could implanting false memories change someone's perception immediately? [closed]

This question is about how the brain works in that aspect, if it's even known.

I mean with the question that a person might react to something with fear, happiness, disappointment, or whatever other feeling.

These feelings are biological but also are built around the memories about that something.

I'm far from a brain expert, but I think that the brain somehow summarizes all of this memories, in a separate way, to give that feeling immediately.

If that were the case then changing this memories would give scenarios sort of strange for the person, as, for example, it might feel fear about something with which everything he can recall are good memories or the opposite, with time the brain might become wired to act accordingly to its memories, but it would result in some severe confusion for the person meanwhile.

We can consider that we have a perfect technology for creating the false memories with as much detail as desired, exchanging it for others, but we cannot still change the "summary" that the brain does (if it happens).

According to actual knowledge about the brain, could changing these memories actually immediately change the behavior of a person?

Not very sure if this goes here or in http://cogsci.stackexchange.com, but as implanting these level of false memories is, as far as I know, absolute science fiction, I'm posting here.

I'm writing my comment here to better explain what would be the hard science part:

The [hard-science] part is most about having a separate "zone" for the response that "summarized" memories in form of feelings produce, and the memories themselves, I don't think it's that far fetched that studies have been able to determine that nowadays, the implanting of memories is less important, for that the thing to check would be that someone who were to get the opposite feelings, if both feelings and memories cannot exist in a separate manner, with brains being of equal "functionality", would prove that implanting memories would cause that associated feelings to change.

With the last thing I want to mean that, for example, between twin brothers, if one of them had experiences that made to develop the opposite feeling about something, I think that would prove that, as the brain has the same functionality, it would make that feelings to change. And, in general, a brain, unless there's some abnormality, is not to work too different in any random person in this aspect (in how it would process them, due to its own working, if those were the memories instead of others), I guess.

Even if restricting it to this wouldn't be enough, I'd like to reopen without the hard-science tag.

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## closed as off-topic by Renan, Chickens are not cows, Gryphon, Shadowzee, CynFeb 21 at 3:38

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• Just a suggestion, but you might want to drop the hard-science tag in favour of science-based. There could be statistics out there somewhere, but transformation (at least as far as I can tell) will probably be nebulous and less well defined than the tag hopes for. – Chickens are not cows Feb 20 at 23:54
• @Agrajag,the important part of the question is if the brain makes this distinction between the feelings the memory gives, and the memories itself, I want an answer as much hard science based as possible with that, as for implanting memories that perfectly we can go into suspension of disbelief. – user2638180 Feb 20 at 23:58
• Please understand that the hard-science tag has nothing to do with "hard science fiction." It's ruthless and has a very strict mandate. We can't implant false memories other than dubiously through hypnosis, which means there is no hard science (factual proof in the form of "equations, empirical evidence, scientific papers, [and] other citations") with which to answer your question. The tag is an absolute. It doesn't allow for "as much hard science based as possible." – JBH Feb 21 at 0:25
• This question seems to be about the real-world application of memory implanting, but since its a fictional topic you seem to have just put it here. I don't see any indication that this is for worldbuilding, especially with the [hard-science] tag which requires answers be back with evidence, equations or papers. If it helps, memory transplants have occurred in mice, but its nothing like what you are mentioning. I would be happy to vote to reopen the question if it didn't require a [hard-science] answer. – Shadowzee Feb 21 at 4:03
• I too would vote to re-open without hard-science. This strikes me as a question right up WorldBuilding's alley, but you can't have a hard-science question which requires including "implanting memories" unless there is a readily available hard science way to implement memories (which I am quite confident there is not... or at least if I told you how to do it, I'd have to kill you) – Cort Ammon Feb 21 at 4:13

The answer is "yes it is possible, but it would be unpredictable".

This has a hard science tag, so this draft might need a few revisions, including references, which I will attend to as time permits. Be aware that the best hard science out there is still very speculative, just marginally better than reading tea leaves

Memories are mediated by the hippocampus and mapped into other areas of the brain.

For a long time, the hippocampus was believed to be the seat of long term memory, because damage or removal of the hippocampus would result in instant and irreversible amnesia. However, by adding the use of functional brain scans to what has been determined through decade of experiment and modelling, we now know there is much more to the story.

Be aware the the best functional brain scan technology only has a 3 mm resolution today (2019). That is pretty coarse for a structure that is only 3 cm³ in volume, so our understanding is still very blurry.

Functional brain scans show a physical mapping process occurring during both memory encoding and reconstruction. The word reconstruction is used deliberately rather than recall because the process of recall is as important as the process of encoding.

Sidebar ...be patient and you'll see how his fits.

During execution of spatial tasks, regions of the hippocampus activate in response to
achieving decision points in the task. For example, if the task is a maze, then at
each decision point a different set of physical regions of the hippocampus will activate.

What is very interesting is that during execution of non-spatial tasks, like
solving a math problem, the hippocampus exhibits exactly the same kind of activity.


We have known for a long time that the hippocampus is active in long term recall. With the advent of readily available brain scan techniques, we can see that its role in long term recall is active rather than passive, and essentially identical to its activity in solving spatial problems.

We also know that the hippocampus is crucial to forming new memories. When new data is first introduced to the brain, the hippocampus is recruited, and exhibits the same sort of activity that it does in solving spatial problems.

In effect, the hippocampus is a spatial mapping organ that has been adapted into a general problem solving tool. Think of it as being similar to the GPU in a modern graphics card, specialized for some function, but over time has been adapted to solve a broad range of problems unrelated to its original intent.

For a long time, psychologists have known about the bookend effect. People tend to remember the first time they did something, the last time they did something, but not much in between. This why the first time you drive a route it seems so much longer than subsequent times.

Data deduplication
* often called intelligent compression or single-instance storage
* is a process that eliminates redundant copies of data and reduces storage
overhead. Data deduplication techniques ensure that only one unique instance of data
is retained on storage media, such as disk, flash or tape


As near as we can tell (at this point its an educated guess backed by experiment and modelling), during memory encoding the hippocampus mediates an aggressive deduplication process. That process compartmentalizes the new memory into fragments representing the state of the brain at that point in time and builds a map of some sort (As a database person I think of it as a key) to tie the fragments back together.

We do not keep detailed memories at all, only statistically reinforced probabilities (described as the sum of the activation functions for the involved neurons - I don't write that kind of math, sorry).

This actually introduces the specific technical issues to be resolved
to "implant" false memories, and also why the results might be unpredictable
no matter how good the tech is.


During recall, the hippocampus is recruited to find and reassemble the memory fragments into a comprehensive whole, again treating it as a spatial navigation problem.

This is why human memory is so fallible.

Examples of this mechanism in action:

My wife often wears a blue dress to church. We get separated, so when I go looking for her and have trouble finding her because she's wearing a green dress today. The reconstructed memory has been statistically reinforced to blue as part of the deduplication and reconstruction process.

The well known phenomenon that no two eyewitnesses of an event recall it exactly the same.

Memory and Emotion

From experimental and clinical studies we know that impairment of emotion processing also inhibits memory encoding

It turns out that you can't really separate memory from emotion, because part of the memory encoding process includes a partial state of the amygdala.

From an experiential perspective, I remember what it felt like to really enjoy a good fireworks show. After brain damage impairing emotional processing, (1) I find it difficult to encode new memories and (2) The only "feeling" i get from the same fireworks show is the sensation of the booms rattling my internal organs, kind of like indigestion.

What is interesting (to me) is that recall causes the same areas of the brain to be activated as the original event (with the caveat that the encoding process is lossy) so there is little difference in the state of the brain during recall as opposed to the original event. The fact that I can recall (reconstruct) emotional states that I can no longer experience in the immediate says that there is a different mediator for recalled emotion versus immediate emotion.

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• You actually need the citations, approbations, and links to meet the hard-science mandate. I'll remove my downvote (and likely upvote) if you supply the fair number of citations this answer requires. – JBH Feb 21 at 7:28

80% of memories are eventually forgotten. (As per forgetting Curves which follow Zipfy progressions, also known as the 20/80 rule Forgetting Curves Zipfs Law).

Upon making memories, and reviewing them, we create the neural pathways that guide our actions.(Making Pathways) Unless an event specifically references a memory, the pathways will largely remain unaffected. (As is evidenced by neural studies showing the pathways in our brains make our decisions before we actively decide: Decision-making pathways in action )

So as far as implanting false memories, it won't change much. (This is part of why confirmation bias is a problem. I recommend looking up Hysteresis of opinions for further information).

That said, however, there are ways to implant false memories currently, but the methods of doing so also directly impact the person's present, so would not apply to your scenario.False Memories

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• I regularly visit a 96-year-old WWII vet. He's remembering memories that he hasn't thought about in decades and decades. I've worked with associates who experienced tremendous childhood trauma that affects their behavior as adults today - but they, themselves, cannot (or will not) remember what caused the trauma. I want proof that we forget anything, much less 80%. – JBH Feb 21 at 0:28
• There are people, usually traumatised that when aroused experience hyperthymesia, what's the evidence about what they've forgotten. – Chickens are not cows Feb 21 at 0:46
• @Agrajag I added sources. You may remove your notice now. – liljoshu Feb 21 at 1:33
• @JBH Sources added. – liljoshu Feb 21 at 1:34
• Forgetting curves are hypothetical. Remember that WWII vet I visit? He, alone, disproves them. And Zipfs Law has nothing to do with memory. It's just a means of working through statistics. But, thanks for adding the links, they do improve your answer. Also, the notice wasn't added by Agrajag. It's added by the Mods. – JBH Feb 21 at 4:09