The magic of the world I'm thinking of has a wide range of effects, has existed since before humanity, and can be learned by basically anyone. This means that 'miracles', which are commonly used by real-life religions to sway unbelievers or impress followers, can be dismissed here as normal magical works. Many great feats like raising the dead or causing storms can be performed by exceptional wizards.

I am wondering how this mundaneness can affect religion, specifically how a lack of real miracles might curb its spread or the respect for it.


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    $\begingroup$ Sure some wizards are stronger than others and can do things that other can't. Magic will become an integral part of religion. $\endgroup$ – Alexander Dec 4 '18 at 18:03
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  • $\begingroup$ The question must be reformulated, because as it is right now it asks about a solution to a non-existent problem. I don't know of any religion, extant or historical, which uses or was using miracles in order "to sway unbelievers or impress followers". Consider Christianism, for example. Christian priests do not perform visible miracles. In fact, no large-scale miracle is supposed to have happened since a very long time ago. What Christianism offers is a world-view, a set of values, and the hope in eternal life. Same for Mohammedanism, Buddhism, Zoroastrism, etc. $\endgroup$ – AlexP Dec 4 '18 at 19:16
  • $\begingroup$ @AlexP Christianity is not employing the display of miracles to sway non-believers, but stories of miracles are important part of religion. $\endgroup$ – Alexander Dec 4 '18 at 19:24

I would guess that one of 3 scenarios happen

  1. The new religions, some will worship the god that gave them the gift of magic and claim that we must be worthy or give thanks for it."very simple"

  2. Religions will act the same way that they do now. Just because there is magic does not prove that there is no god or punishment for sins. Perhaps they could claim that some actions or magic are unholy and that there god will punish them for it or they could just be like the ones we have now.

  3. Religious groups take magic items that lets them perform very difficult works of magic "think the philosopher's stone in fullmetal alchemist" and will use them either openly or hidden and claim that they have miracles from god when in reality it's the magic items

sorry for my bad english


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