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Let's imagine some very powerful dude with absolutely ridiculous strength/speed/durability. I'm not asking about the credibility of this, let's suppose it's magic. He's got some magical sword as durable as it need to be (probably way more than the hardest thing we can think of today. Here again, let's say it's magic). It would be 115 cm long.

Now the real question : If this guy strikes air with his sword at a very high speed, what would be the effects ? Sounds, shockwaves, light, sparks, fire, plasma ? In which amplitude ?

To clear up the ambiguity left by the "very high speed" expression, please give me your advice about these 3 orders of magnitude :

  1. Speed of sound (~300 m/s)
  2. 10 times the speed of sound (~3000 m/s)
  3. Half of the light speed (~150 000 000 m/s)

Let's say it's the instantaneous speed of the tip of the sword. We're on earth, same atmospheric pressure, same gravity, at sea level.

I'm looking for some cool effect without obliterating the entire world, so I'm looking for the best speed for that. I'm hungry for maths too, if possible.

Feel free to give me your advice about how to make things even funnier if possible. Keep in mind that I'm very well conscious of the ridiculousness of the situation.

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    $\begingroup$ 115 cm makes for a pretty short sword, unless I'm mistaken. $\endgroup$ – AndreiROM Apr 12 '18 at 15:45
  • $\begingroup$ I took the average value for a longsword from wikipedia. looks alright for me anyway $\endgroup$ – GlorfSf Apr 12 '18 at 15:47
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    $\begingroup$ Obligatory XKCD regarding #3: what-if.xkcd.com/1 $\endgroup$ – F1Krazy Apr 12 '18 at 15:50
  • $\begingroup$ speed of light is 10^8 m/s, multiply by 1000 or change to km/s $\endgroup$ – V. Sim Apr 12 '18 at 20:11
  • $\begingroup$ My bad, it's fixed. $\endgroup$ – GlorfSf Apr 12 '18 at 20:54
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Perhaps the best way of looking at this is to use the equation for kinetic energy:

Ke=1/2M*V^2

Since the mass of the sword is going to be held constant, the part of the equation where we see the change in the energy delivered to the target is the "V^2" part. In other words, the energy increases as the square of the velocity.

From other Stack Exchange questions we can see how the effects multiply. A longbow arrow can strike a target with @ 100J of energy. A crossbow quarrel, having more mass than the arrow and moving somewhat faster from a steel crossbow can generate @ 200J of energy. An Arquebus from the period, shooting a ball at a much higher velocity, can strike a target with 1000J of energy, an order of magnitude greater.

So a typical "arming sword" (which I am assuming you are referencing when you say "longsword" weighs 1.1Kg, or 1100g

300m/s, KE = 49500 J

3000m/s, KE = 4950000 J

150,000,000m/s, KE = 1.2375E+16 J

For context, we will look at the Atomic Rockets "Boom Table"

At 300m/s, you are striking with just under the energy of a 20mm cannon round, or @ 11 grams of TNT. In context, an anti personnel mine might be that powerful, removing limbs fairly easily.

At 3000 m/s, you are delivering just under the energy of a kilogram of TNT. This is like having an anti tank mine or IED explode on your body, expect shredded remains to go flying across the battlefield.

At 150,000,000, m/s, you are delivering a nuclear punch, of @ 3.5Mt of energy. No human or animal target will even remain (the amount of energy is so great even "pink mist" will have been rendered into its constituent atoms in a rapidly expanding ball of plasma).

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Perhaps a high block won't be so effective in this case

Frankly, I'll just sit back with my sniper buddies and try to engage from @ 3 km away.

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  • $\begingroup$ Nice one. I did what it would sound like, you did what would happen if it hit them :) $\endgroup$ – JavaScriptCoder Apr 12 '18 at 22:55
  • $\begingroup$ Also, “under 1 kg of TNT?” 11 times 100 is over 1000... $\endgroup$ – JavaScriptCoder Apr 13 '18 at 1:59
  • $\begingroup$ Watch out, your sniper buddies might get cancer... $\endgroup$ – Hazard Apr 13 '18 at 2:09
  • $\begingroup$ 4.1E10^6 J is 1Kg of TNT $\endgroup$ – Thucydides Apr 15 '18 at 5:03
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Let's try to work this out for the lowest order of magnitude.

  1. 300 m/s (aka speed of sound)

So this dude has absolutely great speed/strength, as you mentioned. So let's assume his arm accelerates at 46.2 g of force, which a human could definetly survive. That would take $v_f = v_o + at = 453.07t = 300$ (bad with units, so didn't include, sorry). So it's concievable that it could accelerate in less than one second to the speed of sound. Obviously, the object would produce a sonic boom (an order of magnitude louder of a bullet, I'd guess, so wear earmuffs because 150 decibels is a lot). One side effect would be any drones/air troops fighting him would literally get knocked out of the sky if the sound is at the correct resonance frequency (140 decibels to disable a craft that was up to 130 feet away, so can disable crafts up to 1/4 mile away).

The next question is what they are doing with that momentum $p=mv$ which would probably be several hundred kilogram-meters per second.

A rule of Newtonian physics states that the impulse imparted to an object is equal to the change in momentum for that object, provided no other forces or effects are involved. This requires an impulse in the reverse direction of hundreds of Newton seconds, which would also cause massive deceleration. For the impulse to not have him black out, he would have to use hundreds of Newtons of force.

Reader: Don't worry, he's that strong.

In the meantime, "light, sparks, fire, plasma" are not likely, because if you see a plane break the speed of sound, they don't go 'lights sparks fire plasma' (unless something is really wrong). So a big soundwave which could cause permanent hearing damage and knock drones out of the sky is it (unless you consider what it is that he/she's hitting). I don't dare forecast for the second/third scenario (my physics skills aren't sturdy enough).

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  • $\begingroup$ All I'm wondering is how his arms are attached if he accelerates to speed of sound in a second. Lets say his arms are 1m in length and travel a circle (3.14m circumference then right?). His average speed would be 650m/s or 207 times his arms would circle his shoulder and slash at the enemy before he's up to speed. Creepy anatomy that, but a human can handle the stress! XD $\endgroup$ – Demigan Apr 12 '18 at 21:18
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    $\begingroup$ HANDWAVIUM MAN!!!! Now selling for 89.99 dollars :) $\endgroup$ – JavaScriptCoder Apr 12 '18 at 22:34
  • $\begingroup$ Best. Handwavium comment. Ever. $\endgroup$ – Demigan Apr 13 '18 at 6:29

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