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Aug 5, 2017 at 8:12 | comment | added | ErikE | @sphennings Those anything-imaginable definitions of omnipotence are nonsense. They're not even intelligible. Further, on the idea of a god being less than omnipotent if he is subject to the rules of logic, you're arbitrarily framing this in a defeating way. What if the rules of logic neither preceded the being, nor were arbitrarily selected by the being, but instead merely describe the nature of that being? Then there is no problem. The fastest racecar in the world cannot lose—this inability is a capacity, not an incapacity. If God cannot be illogical, this is superior to humans who can be. | |
Aug 4, 2017 at 16:00 | comment | added | guenthmonstr | @sphennings "If they're the source of logic they should be able to ignore it if they saw fit." Being omnipotent means never having to let someone dare you to do something. If god is so powerful that he created the rules of logic, then how can you say he's any less powerful because he refuses to let you even conceive of violations of them? | |
Aug 4, 2017 at 13:40 | comment | added | Andrew Neely | While I would love to get into the philosophical underpinnings of my comment, the comments section is not a place for such a discussion. | |
Aug 4, 2017 at 5:32 | comment | added | ChP | On squaring a circle, just redefine the rules: youtube.com/watch?v=ineO1tIyPfM. We can all be gods. But more serious, we should not be able to describe an omnipotent god with our very limited reasoning powers. If we can, then we can place it in a box and take away its omnipotence. | |
Aug 3, 2017 at 22:58 | comment | added | sphennings | If they're the source of logic they should be able to ignore it if they saw fit. | |
Aug 3, 2017 at 22:51 | comment | added | Andrew Neely | @sphennings, one would say that being logically constrained is merely acting in accordance to his nature, as the source of all logic. | |
Aug 3, 2017 at 21:31 | comment | added | sphennings | If a being is bounded by the rules of logic. Then logic is more powerful than that being. Certainly there can't be something more powerful than an all powerful being. | |
Aug 3, 2017 at 20:56 | comment | added | Andrew Neely | We can string together sentences in every language that are semantical nonsense. Can you imagine a square circle? The best analogy I can provide to describe the omnipotence of God is that the entire universe exists inside of the mind of God, and he can work whatever he wills because the whole universe is created, held together, defined, and operated within his mind. | |
Aug 3, 2017 at 20:21 | comment | added | sphennings | There are some definitions of omnipotent that require that everything that can be expressed in a string of words even if it can be shown to be self-contradictory can be done for an entity to be omnipotent. | |
Aug 3, 2017 at 20:18 | history | answered | Andrew Neely | CC BY-SA 3.0 |