Timeline for Culturally acceptable methods of "Burying" bodies of dead AIs [closed]
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| Jan 22, 2018 at 5:40 | comment | added | JBH | This has been nominated for reopening, but I don't see changes to the Q that would justify it. Burying is 100% cultural, and not a thing is mentioned about the culture of the AIs in this Q. If the AIs are wholly at the mercy of their human cultures, then they won't be buried, they'll be recycled. AIs may be legally recognized, but that stops at death just as it does for humans. Remember, funerals are for the living, not the dead. You need to explain the nature of AI honor, respect, and how the AI culture views death/termination. Then it can be reopened. | |
| Jan 22, 2018 at 3:52 | review | Reopen votes | |||
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| Aug 1, 2017 at 5:45 | history | closed |
Philipp Mołot L.Dutch♦ Mindwin Remember Monica MichaelS |
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| Aug 1, 2017 at 0:19 | vote | accept | Andon | ||
| Aug 1, 2017 at 0:18 | history | edited | Andon | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Aug 1, 2017 at 0:02 | comment | added | Art Yerkes | I would want my last state to be archived and publicly accessible. I would explore and analyze the archives of other unsalvageable AI states too. For some, I think it could be imagined as kind of afterlife. | |
| Jul 31, 2017 at 23:35 | comment | added | Bill K | AIs, like time travel, never seem to be portrayed in a satisfying manner in stories. It would be nearly impossible for an AI to be "Local" to a single body, it would spread to multiple systems. It would never move to another system, it would send a copy. AIs would not talk with each other, they would send copies and interact directly. They would not fear death at all because they would be so used to spinning up and re-absorbing copies... They would "Die" all the time--they don't hold or exchange data, they are data. I doubt you could even have "separate" or "individual" AIs. | |
| Jul 31, 2017 at 22:47 | answer | added | MichaelS | timeline score: -1 | |
| Jul 31, 2017 at 20:31 | comment | added | user2259716 | Pretty sure you just build a giant statue | |
| Jul 31, 2017 at 20:26 | answer | added | CaM | timeline score: 1 | |
| Jul 31, 2017 at 20:24 | answer | added | Ralph Crown | timeline score: 1 | |
| Jul 31, 2017 at 19:33 | answer | added | Eldritch Cheese | timeline score: 1 | |
| Jul 31, 2017 at 19:05 | answer | added | bgvaughan | timeline score: 1 | |
| Jul 31, 2017 at 18:43 | answer | added | Perkins | timeline score: 0 | |
| Jul 31, 2017 at 16:42 | comment | added | jamesqf | Why would we not do just what we - at least the technically & ethically advanced among us - do with human bodies? Remove any usable spare parts, and dispose of the rest. Though if it's just the AI part that is "dead", it should be possible to perform a brain transplant, installing a new AI. | |
| Jul 31, 2017 at 14:53 | answer | added | Ethan The Brave | timeline score: 1 | |
| Jul 31, 2017 at 14:01 | comment | added | Phil Frost | Whether scrapping is irreverent or not is a matter of culture. Regarding human remains, culture is changing; and it's not unreasonable to believe by the time we have AI running buildings and spacecraft it resembles at all our funerary practices today: ted.com/talks/katrina_spade_when_i_die_recompose_me/discussion | |
| Jul 31, 2017 at 12:54 | comment | added | Jeroen Mostert | ...version could be considered a separate "person" in their own right, this would at worst mean a short mourning period for the person who died out there, not the body they happened to inhabit. The emotional impact would simply be much less if most of what makes the AI a person would still be present as a restored backup. A culture were AI bodies were mourned would be weird. Weirder than our cultures were we mourn bodies as placeholders for persons. | |
| Jul 31, 2017 at 12:54 | comment | added | 絢瀬絵里 | @Kaz the AI was written in Python. So where is the body? Donald Hobson, software rot perhaps. | |
| Jul 31, 2017 at 12:53 | comment | added | Jeroen Mostert | To add to what @DonaldHobson said: if AIs were sophisticated enough to be considered persons, and flexible enough to be installed in various bodies, it's hard to see how they (and their allies) wouldn't do everything to make AI death even rarer than you make it out to be, much like we now do a lot to save human life we care about, even in the face of great odds against. It's nearly inconceivable that not every single AI in the world wouldn't have a backup in safe storage somewhere before "inhabiting" any body with any risk of destruction. Even if the backup is old, and the current... | |
| Jul 31, 2017 at 12:17 | comment | added | Donald Hobson | Why would the AI die? The motors of its mobile body wear out, but the AI mind can switch itself from body to body with ease. A digital mind that can control any robot. The computer hardware will break, but the AI's memory and personality can be backed up and uploaded to new hardware. Unless the AI is biological and almost human, it will not age or die. Do not expect a humanoid mind by defalt, there are many strange and alien minds the AI's could have. | |
| Jul 31, 2017 at 10:39 | comment | added | user7868 | A lot of people here have talked about how the cost of various options makes them prohibitive. That | |
| Jul 31, 2017 at 9:50 | answer | added | Pharap | timeline score: 8 | |
| Jul 31, 2017 at 9:44 | comment | added | Pharap | Why is cremation not an option? Are all AI's bodies implicitly fire-proof? | |
| Jul 31, 2017 at 9:31 | answer | added | Naoskev | timeline score: 2 | |
| Jul 31, 2017 at 9:17 | comment | added | Maciej | Surely any file, even with AI, eventually lands in Windows's Trash Can? :D Sorry for horrible joke, I just had to :D | |
| Jul 31, 2017 at 8:09 | answer | added | JeffUK | timeline score: 9 | |
| Jul 31, 2017 at 7:02 | answer | added | Separatrix | timeline score: 22 | |
| Jul 31, 2017 at 4:54 | comment | added | Kaz | > Now, what constitutes an AI's body? Everything between the curly braces, after the function declaration header. | |
| Jul 31, 2017 at 4:37 | answer | added | Harper - Reinstate Monica | timeline score: 7 | |
| Jul 31, 2017 at 3:30 | comment | added | Vocoder | I think this is a really fascinating question - and I have more questions than answers in response. "Culturally ... treated as people." Is a sticking point for me. Would an AI have friends or family? Would a mixture of humans and AIs turn up to their funeral? Is an AI capable of free thought? So for example, would a building AI favour some tenants over others? Could it jealously murder the lover of a tenant it obsesses over? Or the big one for me - does AI have its own culture and rituals beyond those of humans? Would the burial method you're after be a product of humans, AI or both? | |
| Jul 31, 2017 at 2:47 | answer | added | Wolfgang | timeline score: 3 | |
| Jul 31, 2017 at 2:25 | comment | added | Andon | In a manner like the Ship of Theseus, yes - Bit by bit, component by component. All at once? I'm going to go with "No, but." With a well-planned operation, you could transplant the AI into another ship, just like you could (In this universe) put a human into another body. But it takes a lot of effort and time and things have to be done JUST right. | |
| Jul 31, 2017 at 2:25 | answer | added | Wolfgang | timeline score: 5 | |
| Jul 31, 2017 at 2:07 | comment | added | Anixx | Can the whole body be replaced except the central chip? | |
| Jul 31, 2017 at 2:07 | comment | added | Andon | A bit of both. There's the "Central" processing unit, which can be fairly massive, but there's also sub-nodes and the like spread about where they'd be useful. | |
| Jul 31, 2017 at 1:57 | comment | added | Anixx | Are the AIs localized in some chip, crystal etc or they are spread over the "bodies"? | |
| Jul 31, 2017 at 1:29 | history | edited | Andon | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jul 31, 2017 at 1:21 | answer | added | Marty | timeline score: 2 | |
| Jul 31, 2017 at 1:16 | review | Close votes | |||
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| Jul 31, 2017 at 0:57 | answer | added | Cort Ammon | timeline score: 29 | |
| Jul 31, 2017 at 0:45 | answer | added | Philipp | timeline score: 4 | |
| Jul 30, 2017 at 23:39 | history | asked | Andon | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
