Timeline for What change in history would I have to make to stop Christmas from happening?
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| Sep 11, 2017 at 10:55 | vote | accept | Jimmery | ||
| Dec 28, 2016 at 16:05 | comment | added | xDaizu | So much killing and saving people... Christmas DO die hard. | |
| Dec 22, 2016 at 13:02 | answer | added | WooShell | timeline score: 0 | |
| Dec 21, 2016 at 20:33 | answer | added | Mitch Bird | timeline score: 3 | |
| Dec 21, 2016 at 20:06 | answer | added | Astor Florida | timeline score: 3 | |
| Dec 21, 2016 at 19:42 | answer | added | gnasher729 | timeline score: 2 | |
| Dec 21, 2016 at 18:09 | comment | added | jamesqf | @Mikey and others: To stop people from wanting to celebrate occasions, you're going to have to change more than history. If people have any contact with the natural world at all, those occasion are, in temperate zones, likely to be connected to changes in the world: the solstices & equinoxes, planting & harvest, &c. So I take the question as asking how to remove the veneers of Christianity & commercialism that have been applied to these natural occasions. | |
| Dec 21, 2016 at 18:02 | comment | added | jamesqf | @kingledion: On further reflection, WRT saving Julian vs killing Constantine to forestall a Christian takeover, I think what you said about inertia is the important point. Kill Constantine, and Christianity still has inertia. Save Julian, and you have a charismatic leader (now flush with military success against the Persians) intent on reversing that inertia. | |
| Dec 21, 2016 at 17:03 | comment | added | user64742 | @Bellerophon i would assume the op wants to avoid time paradoxes to some extent. Scrooge character probably wants to at least survive this. | |
| Dec 21, 2016 at 17:01 | comment | added | Bellerophon | @TheGreatDuck Why don't we kill everyone? No people no Christmas. | |
| Dec 21, 2016 at 16:39 | comment | added | user64742 | Just a point in the comments, to avoid insulting religions and keep it fun how about not going back and killing Jesus? Depending on people's point of view, that scenario might go very badly or backfire in Scrooge character's face. In general that might bug people. A lot of people. Killing the person who designated the holiday on the other hand? Perfectly logical. | |
| Dec 21, 2016 at 15:49 | comment | added | Darren Bartrup-Cook | Give that 'star' a nudge so it hits Bethlehem instead of passing over. | |
| Dec 21, 2016 at 15:14 | comment | added | Grimm The Opiner | It depends on your definition of Christmas. There's a lot of assumptions here that it has something to do with Christianity - which is a load of baubles. In the west today, Christmas is a secular winter holiday based around eating mince pies, buying presents, and tweeting from a high horse about the saccharine exploitative tone of this year's "John Lewis ad". So you'd have to somehow prevent the idea of celebrating winter solstices, and/or create a world economy so poor that no-one can afford the slightest indulgence - and see to it that there's no twitter. Good luck with that. | |
| Dec 21, 2016 at 14:50 | history | rollback | Jimmery |
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| S Dec 21, 2016 at 14:38 | history | suggested | David Glickman | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
english as we know it
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| Dec 21, 2016 at 11:43 | answer | added | Separatrix | timeline score: 10 | |
| Dec 21, 2016 at 10:52 | answer | added | Weckar E. | timeline score: 7 | |
| Dec 21, 2016 at 9:03 | comment | added | Mixxiphoid | @jamesqf trying to prevent Christianity to take over at one point in history is no guarantee it won't succeed in the future. | |
| Dec 21, 2016 at 8:06 | answer | added | Frezzley | timeline score: 4 | |
| Dec 21, 2016 at 3:34 | comment | added | Thucydides | Make a fake Santyclaus hat and a coat..... | |
| Dec 21, 2016 at 3:18 | comment | added | Mazura | @Mikey - Take a wild guess what the suggested third word is when you ask Google, is christmas .... | |
| Dec 21, 2016 at 2:07 | answer | added | Jocelyn Flassendale | timeline score: 5 | |
| Dec 21, 2016 at 1:25 | answer | added | SRM | timeline score: 2 | |
| Dec 20, 2016 at 21:45 | comment | added | Mikey | I disagree with some of the comments; Christmas - while it would not be called the same thing - was a pagan ritual first, symbolic of birth and fertility, so you'd have to go further back than Jesus to get rid of those trees :) | |
| Dec 20, 2016 at 21:41 | answer | added | Monica Cellio | timeline score: 15 | |
| Dec 20, 2016 at 20:24 | comment | added | jamesqf | @kingledion: Killing Constantine could work, of course, but it's nicer to save someone's life :-) Given Julian's considerable success, presumably if he'd lived many of the Christian generals &c would either be replaced, or re-think their career-based adherence to Constantine's cult. Reduced to a minor cult, Christians couldn't expect to take over the existing solstice festivals, so might re-think their calendar to bring it in line with Biblical accounts. But of course this doesn't meet the OP's desire to eliminate the festival entirely: it'd just have a different foundation. | |
| Dec 20, 2016 at 19:41 | comment | added | kingledion | @jamesqf You'd have to kill Constantine at Milvian Bridge. Many of Julian's generals were already Christian, and Christianity had a lot of inertia at that point. Regarding Jesus' birth in spring, Dec 25 was established as Christmas in the Philocalian Calendar of 354, predating Julian's emperor-ship of 360. | |
| Dec 20, 2016 at 19:24 | comment | added | jamesqf | Go back to 363 CE with a medical kit, and keep the Roman Emperor Julian from dying in battle. This keeps Christianity from taking over the Empire, driving all other religions underground, and stealing their festivals. Instead of Christmas, we have a proper Winter Solstice feast. The Christian minority keep their celebration of Jesus' birth in the spring, where it should be according to the stories in their Bible. | |
| Dec 20, 2016 at 19:03 | comment | added | Samuel | Time travel? You seen this? You heard about this? Send Seinfeld back to around 200 AD to popularize an alternate festival. | |
| Dec 20, 2016 at 17:30 | answer | added | Bellerophon | timeline score: 16 | |
| Dec 20, 2016 at 17:30 | answer | added | fer-rum | timeline score: 8 | |
| Dec 20, 2016 at 17:23 | answer | added | dot_Sp0T | timeline score: 20 | |
| Dec 20, 2016 at 17:15 | answer | added | TrEs-2b | timeline score: 3 | |
| Dec 20, 2016 at 17:05 | comment | added | Jimmery | The Grinch and Scrooge have nothing on my invented antagonist, Sam Stirch | |
| Dec 20, 2016 at 17:04 | comment | added | kingledion | Have you consulted the Grinch? | |
| Dec 20, 2016 at 17:03 | history | asked | Jimmery | CC BY-SA 3.0 |