Timeline for Physical correctness of trolls with high regeneration ability
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| Oct 9, 2017 at 7:20 | history | edited | Secespitus | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Apr 19, 2017 at 1:57 | comment | added | Joshua | You could just relocate the non-conscious vital neuro stuff to the spine. | |
| Dec 24, 2016 at 14:13 | vote | accept | Otto Abnormalverbraucher | ||
| Sep 11, 2016 at 10:10 | comment | added | Hankrecords | @OttoAbnormalverbraucher Let their "smell" be able to attract small animals like squirrels and perhaps sedate them to prevent them from escaping. | |
| Sep 10, 2016 at 22:55 | comment | added | Otto Abnormalverbraucher | Yeah, I already thought about the carnivorous plants. They only trap insects though, and that's why I was wondering if that'd be enough ... | |
| Sep 9, 2016 at 7:03 | comment | added | Hankrecords | @OttoAbnormalverbraucher I don't think insects would be enough. Not only because of the quantity they would need, but also the basic nutrients that insects lack: nitrogen and proteins are roughly all that they provide. Unless your world has big ass insects which contain a lot of nutrients, but I would avoid the "absorbs through the skin" thing, as it would be really complex. They could lure insects and small animal in their oral "valve" like some kinds of carnivorous plants do | |
| Sep 8, 2016 at 16:10 | comment | added | Otto Abnormalverbraucher | The external devouring solutions require resistance to acid, which I'd rather avoid, considering the helpful nature of acid when facing their regeneration. | |
| Sep 8, 2016 at 16:08 | comment | added | Otto Abnormalverbraucher | Upon removal of limbs and organs, yes. "Upon decapacitation the body immediately shuts down any non required functionality". Without a brain, the body is not able to continue running around, gathering food or do any complex task alike. I rather imagine them sending out a scent to lure possible bait, throw up stomach acid and then "drink" the devoured plants, "sweat" a sticky, smelly, acidic liquid insects are attracted to and get decomposed by, with the nutritions entering the troll's body through the skin, something along these lines. The social solution could work but I'm not fond of it. | |
| Sep 8, 2016 at 15:12 | comment | added | Hankrecords | @OttoAbnormalverbraucher As to how the food gets in, the body simply controls the valve as if it was its mouth and can open and close it. As to what kind of food, I'd say any kind, provided that the stomach is capable of processing not chewed. | |
| Sep 8, 2016 at 15:10 | comment | added | Hankrecords | @OttoAbnormalverbraucher Wait, we said the body enters hibernation only after having eaten the lots of food it needs. As to how it gets food, I'd say it could have primitive sensory input from external sources and thus recognize food, although it would need some kind of smell gland that's not in the head. If that's too complex, simply make them a heavily society-/group-based species that need other members of their kin to survive in such situations (e.g. a friend gets them food until they've regenerated mouth and eyes). That would also prevent them from being too overpowered. | |
| Sep 8, 2016 at 12:48 | comment | added | Otto Abnormalverbraucher | I'm still lacking details, though. I mean, sure, stuff gets in, stuff passes valve, stuff enters stomach ... but, how does it get in? What does get in? The body is in a hibernation mode, can't see, smell or hear, so it can't hunt for food, it has no ability to harvest plants or anything, it all costs too much energy, therefore somehow the food has to get to and in the body. Lots of food. | |
| Sep 8, 2016 at 12:07 | comment | added | Hankrecords | @OttoAbnormalverbraucher The reference to cockroaches was primarily to see why humans die instantly when decapitated (= blood doesn't clot fast enough and the victim bleeds to death). I think eating through the hole/valve I mentioned in my last edit would be a viable option to keep it alive while regenerating. | |
| Sep 8, 2016 at 11:52 | comment | added | Otto Abnormalverbraucher | He might emit a stench from the open esophagus attracting flies but I doubt that would be enough | |
| Sep 8, 2016 at 11:51 | comment | added | Otto Abnormalverbraucher | I'd say there's a huge difference between a cockroach and a troll. The cockroach is small and does pretty much nothing once decapacitated, it doesn't regrow highly complex organs and body parts and therefore doesn't need a large amount of energy. Sphincter muscles around the esophagus at neck height could open or close it and thus let the troll process food like some snakes do so he doesn't need to chew it if it's of a certain small size but how does it get there? He can't rip off plants or chase animals. | |
| Sep 8, 2016 at 8:26 | history | edited | Hankrecords | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
Author added another part to question.
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| Sep 7, 2016 at 22:08 | comment | added | Otto Abnormalverbraucher | Aren't nerves only means of communcation between the brain and organs? As @Hankrecords commented, I indeed meant a much more complex system of loosely coupled brain cells, which are able to run the main body functions without any involvement of the brain itself. | |
| Sep 7, 2016 at 19:05 | comment | added | Hankrecords | @JAB I think he meant something more complex, like small brain-like organs scattered around the torso | |
| Sep 7, 2016 at 17:42 | comment | added | JAB | "what about brain like tissue spread across the torso, which is able to capture minor electric signals from the brain" Aren't those called nerves? | |
| Sep 7, 2016 at 15:11 | comment | added | Hankrecords | @OttoAbnormalverbraucher Sorry, maybe what I wrote was misleading. What I was talking about is an organ that simply handles communications between organs when the brain isn't there (or always), so it could actually regenerate itself. If I understood correctly, the process of regeneration (especially that of inner wounds) is decentralized, so I don't think they would need an organ that handles it. | |
| Sep 7, 2016 at 15:09 | comment | added | Otto Abnormalverbraucher | I thought if you need an organ to manage the regeneration process, you'd probably not be in a good situation if that organ itself got hurt during the time of regeneration. Maybe I misinterpreted your answer. | |
| Sep 7, 2016 at 14:59 | comment | added | Hankrecords | @OttoAbnormalverbraucher I figured the communications organ would be able to regenerate just like the other organs :) so a stab would not be enough. | |
| Sep 7, 2016 at 14:56 | comment | added | Otto Abnormalverbraucher | Not a thing, I'm glad people answer :) I guess an organ behind the heart would not survive a stab through the heart, thus removing the heart completely wouldn't be necessary. I'd rather stick to decentralized tissue spread across at least a large part of the body. Thanks for the link, gotta read through it later, though. They rarely stand up so the loss of that ability wouldn't be of any trouble. | |
| Sep 7, 2016 at 14:46 | comment | added | Hankrecords | @OttoAbnormalverbraucher Sorry, edited again. | |
| Sep 7, 2016 at 14:45 | history | edited | Hankrecords | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
I had misunderstood the OP's edit, as he pointed out in a comment.
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| Sep 7, 2016 at 14:30 | comment | added | Otto Abnormalverbraucher | Guess you misread the edit. They don't need to regrow limbs in minutes but they need to regenerate inner injuries quickly enough to be on their feet in minutes. Regrowth of organs and limbs can take time. About the brain part, what about brain like tissue spread across the torso, which is able to capture minor electric signals from the brain and at least keep the body and regeneration process alive? That'd make them very vulnerable to electricity, I guess. Well, they're more intelligent than an infant as they do have a rough language and culture but compared to a human they're quite stupid. | |
| Sep 7, 2016 at 14:28 | history | edited | Hankrecords | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
Fixed a couple mistakes
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| Sep 7, 2016 at 14:20 | history | answered | Hankrecords | CC BY-SA 3.0 |