Timeline for Pheromone-based language
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| Jul 4, 2016 at 5:23 | vote | accept | IndigoFenix | ||
| Jul 1, 2016 at 9:31 | comment | added | user | Yes he does, but it's a little easier to read than a 15 pages long scientific paper. I realized a little too late that I should have pointed that out in my comment. | |
| Jul 1, 2016 at 9:20 | comment | added | SE - stop firing the good guys | @MichaelKjörling He sites the same paper as me, the famous Shannon paper from 1950 :) Randall uses 1.1 bit per character from the range provided, but I rounded it to 1 bit. | |
| Jul 1, 2016 at 9:07 | comment | added | user | "the information a human get from a maxed out tweet is about 140 bits" Randall to the rescue! xkcd what-if: Twitter answers the question "How many unique English tweets are possible? How long would it take for the population of the world to read them all out loud?". | |
| Jun 30, 2016 at 22:53 | comment | added | SE - stop firing the good guys | @TemporalWolf You are correct 2^n is the number of combinations, however, I am measuring the information (measured in bits). That is log_2 of the number of combinations. | |
| Jun 30, 2016 at 22:35 | comment | added | TemporalWolf |
I don't believe your math is correct: scents can easily carry 2^n meanings through combinations: a danger scent and a trail scent can combine to mean treacherous terrain, for example. with 2 scents, we have 4 distinct meanings. 10 distinct scents, which can be either emitted or not, gives 1024 (2^10) possible distinct mixes per scent pile. with 20 scents, you can give a distinct scent combination to every word in the English language
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| Jun 30, 2016 at 15:48 | comment | added | MolbOrg | But as things like "fjafjkldskf7jkfdj" does not make sense - you have to watch this video 5 Strange Languages Still Spoken Today , at mark 6:50 your example will be ruined)) | |
| Jun 30, 2016 at 15:11 | comment | added | SE - stop firing the good guys | @vsz Yep, lingering is the problem with the refreshing rate, causing it to be favourable to have a broad range of scents for shorter messages. I think the range problem is somewhat compensated by the fact that the scent will stay in the area much longer than either sound or light. More time but less space footprint. | |
| Jun 30, 2016 at 14:53 | comment | added | vsz | Isn't there a problem with scents that they linger for a long time, making subsequent communication much harder? Also, it's much harder (maybe impossible?) to determine direction. Also, speed. I can shout loudly and it can be heard in hundreds of meters, but scent takes quite some time, or maybe doesn't even arrive, if the winds are unfavorable. | |
| Jun 30, 2016 at 13:44 | history | edited | SE - stop firing the good guys | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jun 30, 2016 at 13:35 | comment | added | SE - stop firing the good guys | @Zaibis Sure, I can try to make my point a little more clear, and try to make it more understandable. | |
| Jun 30, 2016 at 13:30 | comment | added | Zaibis | Could you leave a little more information about the math? I can see your arguments and the formular you base on that. But I'm not aware of the meaning this has for the OP. | |
| Jun 30, 2016 at 11:28 | history | answered | SE - stop firing the good guys | CC BY-SA 3.0 |