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| Feb 29, 2016 at 20:11 | history | edited | Vincent | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Feb 29, 2016 at 0:23 | comment | added | Cort Ammon | If the Levithanians are such complicated creatures, there may be dozens of small cultural details which lend themselves to dealing with this ritual. | |
| Feb 29, 2016 at 0:23 | comment | added | Cort Ammon | @PyRulez If you look at how our constitution has been treated by the courts, philosophical bases like constitutions get turned into a bevvy of exacting legal statutes rapidly. If, indeed, the contract is flexible, then there is a good chance it lacks the teeth to have any anarchist rebel against it (except the most pathological of them). However, from the sound of it, Levithanians are not flexible people. They subject themselves to very strict legal status changes indicating that it is unlikely their legal docuemnts will be flexible. This may open the door to "anything is possible" | |
| Feb 29, 2016 at 0:03 | comment | added | Christopher King | Really, the signing is mostly to their to ensure legitimacy of the government, sort of a philosphical basis. It doesn't need to accodomate every different person and edge case. The constitution (a.k.a. the Contract) can be made more flexible. | |
| Feb 29, 2016 at 0:01 | comment | added | Christopher King | Instead of different contracts, The Contract could just include different clauses, prefaced with "Pick 1 of the following to obey". | |
| Feb 29, 2016 at 0:00 | comment | added | Cort Ammon | In that situation, you have an even more interesting situation. The Soldiers are blessed to sign any contract, but clearly they are instructed as to types of contracts that may be acceptable. One acceptable form of contract may be an extension of this limbo phase of the non-signatory's life while they pursue the shaping of a final citizenship contract which meets the needs of both Levithanaia and the signatory. | |
| Feb 28, 2016 at 23:58 | comment | added | Cort Ammon | @PyRulez Which shows just how challenging Levithania's chosen position is. You've really created quite a polarized nation, and with that comes extreme edge cases. However, this is only an issue if the non-signatories are very uncreative with their contracts. There's all sorts of creative solutions one could use to convince a Soldier (who clearly is going to veto all but the most benign of modifications). For example, non-signatories may offer a "revocable" citizenship which temporarially gives them citeznship long enough to prove to a higher court that their contract should be accepted | |
| Feb 28, 2016 at 23:55 | comment | added | Christopher King | Although I could see like two contracts, allowing a bunch of different contracts would be very difficult. Since many people turn 18 a day, that would require a lot of soldiers, all of whom would have the power to basically do anything, since they can make contracts that Levithanian has to follow. | |
| Feb 28, 2016 at 23:52 | comment | added | Cort Ammon | Are you only concerned with the most anarchistic of individuals, or are the Levithanians considering the general case. It may make sense to say "if you wont accept our constitution, but you're willing to sign a lesser document, you can be a vistior. If you are unwilling to sign anything, then you are left to nature" | |
| Feb 28, 2016 at 23:51 | comment | added | Christopher King | "They may be permitted to live in Levithania as a non-citizen." The problem is they literally agreed to nothing, so you they could do whatever they like basically, including breaking the speed limit and such. If they broke a law, it would be unjust to punish them since they never agreed to the law. | |
| Feb 28, 2016 at 23:41 | history | answered | Cort Ammon | CC BY-SA 3.0 |