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Mar 14, 2016 at 21:13 comment added ESL I think we will "easily" create a system that teaches machines to be creatives. A combination with evolutionary programming, some mechanisms (like evolving to make models of reality and of abstract concepts), and with human as a part of the teaching system.
Mar 14, 2016 at 21:09 comment added ESL The brain is a computational system. All you said it just emerge from specific programming in that system, and because of enormous amount of neurons we have in our brains.
Oct 30, 2015 at 16:25 comment added Tracy Cramer That's an interesting question. Another thing I just realized we were bringing into the conversation but not actually saying it was emotion. Mozart created music that appeals to us. Sculptures, paintings - they all have some aesthetic to them - something that makes us 'like' them. Having a machine do something that appeals to us may not be the point at all. I think your reference to Planck and scientific leaps are probably better suited to this question of creativity. Thanks for the discussion.
Oct 30, 2015 at 13:39 comment added user11864 @TracyCramer - You are assuming that the mind is a product entirely of the brain, or the human body. I assume we are more than the matter we are made of. And making a machine that can teach itself how to be creative is squaring the problem. We'd have to create a machine that can create creativity - an equal or tougher proposition. But, I like the way you think, and it will be exciting in the coming decades, to see if technology begins to tell us - can we create creativity? Does our power to create go that far?
Oct 29, 2015 at 23:44 comment added Tracy Cramer I agree that a computer just randomly putting together musical notes would not create a Mozart sonata. And I agree we don't understand how the creative process works - yet. But, I would offer that it is simply a matter of time before we understand the brain well enough to mimic all of it. Or, sooner, I believe, we will create a machine that can teach itself how to be creative in its own way, that's just mho though.
Oct 29, 2015 at 21:00 comment added user11864 @TracyCramer - It is easy enough to question what we know. The hard part is to then make the intuitive leap to the right answer, the right paradigm that provides an answer to a previously unanswered problem. Among the billions of combinations of notes that a composer could put together, and that mediocre composers do put together mechanically, what is it that allowed Mozart to jump, time and again, to the "right" combination without hesitation. This is the same type of creative thinking going on in Planck and actually in all of us, so often, we take it for granted.
Oct 29, 2015 at 20:21 comment added Tracy Cramer I think this answer presupposes that a machine AI is incapable of eschewing the knowledge we and experience give it. A machine AI can be programmed to question everything and form its own hypotheses - ("forsake every ... conviction...") and then question those. The human condition to think we know what the answer is does not have to be inherent in an AI. I would argue that allowing it to understand evidence and form its own conclusions (all the while gathering more evidence and evaluating that) is what will allow it to supersede our knowledge and help us learn more about the universe.
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