Timeline for Can teleportation using the reassembly of atoms preserve consciousness and therefore identity?
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| Jan 3 at 17:37 | answer | added | Beefster | timeline score: 0 | |
| Dec 31, 2023 at 2:46 | answer | added | The Square-Cube Law | timeline score: 1 | |
| Dec 26, 2023 at 16:46 | answer | added | Jon Sherrill | timeline score: 0 | |
| Dec 24, 2023 at 23:30 | comment | added | NomadMaker | One problem is that consciousness is extremely difficult to define. Experts have different viewpoints. My viewpoint is that consciousness is merely an error handler in our brain, and is rarely continuous. Your viewpoint may be different. | |
| Dec 24, 2023 at 22:57 | answer | added | import huh | timeline score: 0 | |
| Dec 24, 2023 at 0:35 | history | edited | JBH | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Removing the wall of text.
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| Dec 23, 2023 at 20:44 | comment | added | lessthanideal | ... However @JBH suggests below wormholes can be used for transporting the same person from one place to another. Maybe the wormholes can reach back in time and snatch them forward in time to "now" at the last moment before death, replacing them with a cloned corpse? Then you'd have the original, and being extraordinarily advanced, repairing what was about to kill them should be easy enough. | |
| Dec 23, 2023 at 20:42 | comment | added | lessthanideal | @KerrAvon2055 points out the problem with relying on light. But perhaps your alien could rely on something else to observe the entirety of a person's external life (e.g. teeny tiny wormholes peering back in time like the The Light of Other Days by Stephen Baxter), and then simulate that to an artificial mind; they could they end up with a mind that thought it was the same person. (They are extraordinarily powerful aliens, after all!) I think that would be a copy. ... | |
| Dec 22, 2023 at 22:57 | comment | added | Slarty | Thought must be given to what consciousness actually is to get a full answer. Coming at that from a slightly unconventional angle - anesthesia removes consciousness and is thought to work by shorting out the membranes in the mitochondria that supply energy (this works with all animals). If consciousness is in someway dependent on energy patterns deep within the cells of our body its not just a matter of copying the atoms. | |
| Dec 22, 2023 at 20:06 | vote | accept | user1181399 | ||
| Dec 22, 2023 at 19:40 | history | edited | user1181399 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Removed some parts that I thought were unnecessary and clarified the question being asked
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| Dec 22, 2023 at 12:49 | answer | added | Danijel | timeline score: 4 | |
| Dec 22, 2023 at 11:15 | comment | added | user6760 | think of your body like the ship of Theseus and you may start to wonder when do you stop being you since you are constantly replacing cells, the debate about persistent of identity has troubled many scholars since Theseus boarded the ship. | |
| Dec 22, 2023 at 10:58 | comment | added | Heopps | At least long-term human memory looks like chemically-based, according to recent research. So if teleportation is a "chemical twin reassembly", than the long-term memory will be preserved. The short-term memory probably will not. In this case the teleported person will remember who they are, but will not remember what they have been doing in the last moments before the teleportation. | |
| Dec 22, 2023 at 9:21 | answer | added | Trioxidane | timeline score: 2 | |
| Dec 22, 2023 at 9:06 | answer | added | Pica | timeline score: 13 | |
| Dec 22, 2023 at 6:12 | comment | added | James Grossmann | Since transmitting matter is highly improbable, but important to your story, I think you should give yourself the freedom to hand-wave. When Star Trek writers are asked how the Heisenberg Compensator in their transporters work, their typical answer is "They work very well." // With this in mind, you can conjure up a fictional non-destructive form of teleportation, e.g, "using an altered hyperspatial domain to relocalize the matter-waves." Or you could read Greg Bear's "Moving Mars," and see what kind of hand-waving he uses to move a whole planet. | |
| Dec 22, 2023 at 5:42 | answer | added | Simon Crase | timeline score: 8 | |
| Dec 22, 2023 at 4:44 | history | became hot network question | |||
| Dec 22, 2023 at 4:19 | answer | added | JBH | timeline score: 26 | |
| Dec 22, 2023 at 3:00 | comment | added | Robert Rapplean | VTC: Opinion based. As Gault mentions, this is the Star Trek teleportation conundrum: tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DestructiveTeleportation In the Bobiverse, Taylor chooses to resolve this in the other direction, where exact copies will suffer cognitive drift if and only if the original isn't destroyed. Thus, there is no way to answer this authoritatively. | |
| Dec 22, 2023 at 2:06 | comment | added | causative | existentialcomics.com/comic/1 | |
| Dec 21, 2023 at 23:47 | review | Close votes | |||
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| Dec 21, 2023 at 23:12 | answer | added | Kilisi | timeline score: 1 | |
| Dec 21, 2023 at 21:20 | comment | added | KerrAvon2055 | The question of whether destructive teleportation is murder has been explored many, many, many, many times before, (it has its own TV Tropes page) and is unanswerable except by author fiat, especially since whether something is a unique "consciousness" is unmeasurable given quantum uncertainty. So it's up to you as author. (BTW, relying on light that was reflected to recreate a body will result in a hollow shell, since it will not allow imaging of the interior of the body.) | |
| Dec 21, 2023 at 21:15 | comment | added | Gault Drakkor | There seems to be multiple questions here. The revive form photograph and clone from past should be removed. The answer for those would be insufficient information by many orders of magnitude. | |
| Dec 21, 2023 at 20:49 | answer | added | L.Dutch♦ | timeline score: 5 | |
| S Dec 21, 2023 at 20:43 | review | First questions | |||
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| S Dec 21, 2023 at 20:43 | history | asked | user1181399 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |