Timeline for This teleporter causes gravitational warping of the user’s body—how come it doesn’t kill them?
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Aug 3, 2023 at 0:49 | comment | added | JBH | @Abion47 That's your opinion. Heard and acknowledged. | |
Aug 2, 2023 at 19:41 | comment | added | Abion47 | @JBH I did check the edit since I'm well-aware that answers that at first seem nonsensical are generally because an edit to the question makes the answer less applicable. But the original post still clearly references wormholes and gravitational effects in the context of the teleportation process, and the only real difference the edit made was in reference to the specific effects or distortions a user might experience. So no, I would still posit that energy-based teleportation is an irrelevant tangent even in the context of the original post, and that the frame challenge does not apply. | |
Aug 2, 2023 at 19:22 | comment | added | JBH | @Abion47 If you check the dates of both my answer and the latest edit of the question, you'll see that my answer was posted about 2 minutes after the OP posted their edits. In other words, my answer reflected the original post. (I probably spent about 30 minutes writing the answer.) So what you're really complaining about is that I haven't gone back and updated my answer to reflect the current post edit - which I did't even know existed until now. So while your complaint is technically correct - I'm going to ignore it as I answered the question before me at the time I started typing. | |
Aug 2, 2023 at 15:23 | comment | added | Abion47 | This answer describes the deconstruction/reconstruction process as though the teleportation was energy-based information transit whereas OP explicitly defines their "teleportation" as being via wormholes/physical space warping which precludes the need for deconstruction/reconstruction. As such, the frame challenge as posed in this answer doesn't really apply, and while OP would be benefitted from getting more specific with their technobabble as to how it would actually work, going into the fundamental issues of energy-based teleportation is an irrelevant tangent. | |
Aug 2, 2023 at 5:31 | comment | added | DonQuiKong | @jbh you're just saying that in your opinion deconstruction/reconstruction is realistic enough for ops story while whormhole transport is not. That's not your decision to make and it feels somewhat condescending to ignore someone reasoning on purpose based on that. | |
Aug 1, 2023 at 19:52 | comment | added | Tortliena - inactive | @EthanManess It's the one who tells who has to prove. Do you have references to the equations that will tell the exact experience I will have? Not a number or two, mind you; It's insufficient to accurately describe feelings which are context, culture, and one's biology and psychology dependent. | |
Jul 31, 2023 at 20:14 | comment | added | JBH | @EthanManess No it doesn't. At best it predicts what forces might exist - but that's a very long way away from an actual traveler feeling something in an actual act of transit. The math is subject to empirical experience (e.g., Earth-centric orbits a millennium ago). But more to the point, the goal of my answer was to direct the OP to a better worldbuilding process: choose what effects you want your travelers to feel, set the rules of travel, then ask us to help rationalize the rules and the effects. We're good at that. Not so much when it's presented to us backwards. | |
Jul 31, 2023 at 19:47 | comment | added | Ethan Maness | @JBH I'm gonna partially disagree with that. The math totally explains what it would feel like to move through a wormhole in a "warp bubble" a la Alcubierre--the space your body occupies remains entirely un-distorted, so it doesn't feel like anything at all because you aren't experiencing any sort of gravity gradient. Reading OP's question, it sounds to me like they are describing this type of transportation, except that the bubble isn't quite perfectly flat. | |
Jul 31, 2023 at 19:35 | comment | added | JBH | @NoName No worries! I didn't receive your comment as snippy - you simply pointed out a conclusion I just happened to be hiding from. :-) | |
Jul 31, 2023 at 17:44 | comment | added | No Name | Fair enough. Sorry I got snippy | |
Jul 31, 2023 at 17:42 | comment | added | JBH | @NoName I didn't follow that line of reasoning intentionally (and I'm hoping it's not the case). There is no science explaining transportation through a wormhole. There's math (at best hypothesis) suggesting it could be done, but nothing at all explaining what it would feel like. That brings us right back to "my travelers feel X because of worldbuilding rule Y and that's explained using [technobabble]." So, in the end, same result, just more difficult to rationalize (IMO). | |
Jul 31, 2023 at 17:35 | comment | added | No Name | The point is OP isn't thinking of the victim being decon-reconned, the teleportee is being sent through the wormhole in one piece! | |
Jul 31, 2023 at 7:23 | comment | added | JBH | @amphibiaenjoyer Sentence #1 is irrelevant. Since teleporters don't exist the technobabble you use to describe yours is an aesthetic. Only the operational rules count. Sentence #2 is getting closer, but saying that you're using a pod doesn't really mean anything, either. Is the pod being dematerialized or not? Is the occupant feeling it or not? Those are the kinds of rules YOU set. How long does teleport take? How long is the occupant experiencing the "effects" (more technobabble) that result in the emotions you want them to feel? Welcome to worldbuilding! Rules first, aesthetic second. | |
Jul 31, 2023 at 4:19 | comment | added | amphibiaenjoyer | An alternate stance here: how much of this applies if I specify it to be a non-energy/wormhole teleporter? Instead of deconstructing at point A and reconstructing at point B, it’s creating or using some sort of “pod” or “force field” to contain the user and physically zapping THAT through a wormhole or something similar, from point A on one end to point B at the other. Our user is conscious and (although, like I mentioned, a bit warped from their typical form) physically existent in there the whole time, not being destroyed at one end and then recreated from feeling-less energy/data | |
Jul 31, 2023 at 4:01 | history | answered | JBH | CC BY-SA 4.0 |