Timeline for Non-religious reasons to have highly advanced physical simulations without any AI which can predict or mimic human behaviour, even algorithmically?
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| Sep 2, 2022 at 8:28 | comment | added | user86462 | @kaya3 You're right and you're wrong. The bigger conflation was even earlier: secular philosopher = atheist materialist, which isn't necessarily true...but is extremely common. Same for the other conflations; a materialist may not be a monist, and a monist may not be a reductionist. All the same, within secular philosophers, I would guess with confidence that the atheist materialist monist reductionists are an absolute majority. Take out reductionist, and definitely a majority, probably a large one. And even many who aren't suddenly sound like Richard Dawkins if a Christian shows up. | |
| Sep 2, 2022 at 8:17 | comment | added | kaya3 | "I struggle to see how an atheist/materialist can carve out an exception for something so anthropocentric and abandon reductionism" - this appears to conflate secular philosophy with reductionism, and reductionism with monism. Certainly many secular philosophers are not monists, so there is no abandonment involved. | |
| Sep 1, 2022 at 2:49 | comment | added | user458 | I would suspect that philosophers who argue consciousness cannot be reduced to constituent parts of the brain also argue that consciousness requires the body. That is, as you hint, conscious thought requires stimulus. | |
| Aug 31, 2022 at 11:00 | comment | added | Demigan | I think it has more to do with the brain not being one solidly defineable thing. Yes you can point to a section of brain and say "this activates when you move your arm" but that does not completely define that part of the brain. The neurons are closely packed together and can create "noise" within the nearby neurons, causing different processes to work differently based on what other processes are active at the time. So its hard to "just" make a full humanoid process without exactly mimicing that noise and complex interaction. That is not even counting hormones and stuff. | |
| Aug 31, 2022 at 9:58 | history | answered | user86462 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |