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| Oct 22, 2022 at 17:20 | comment | added | Philipp | @Amadeus In that context it makes sense. | |
| Oct 22, 2022 at 15:37 | comment | added | Amadeus | @Philipp +1, but the last word in your answer is still "visualize". Since we are talking about letters and words, I'd say the obvious choice is "hear as an inner voice" conveying some idea or information. | |
| Oct 22, 2022 at 14:47 | comment | added | Philipp | Your debate leads nowhere. I removed the word "visualize" from the answer and phrased that part differently. | |
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| Oct 22, 2022 at 12:55 | comment | added | Justin Thyme the Second | @Amadeus Anthropomorphic arguements. Because Earthly creatures and humans evolved like us, then all aliens must evolve and be like us. Anything Earthly can be used as a model for ALL alien lifeforms. Make everything in our image. | |
| Oct 21, 2022 at 10:26 | comment | added | Amadeus | @JustinThymetheSecond And a dog has eyes, but their brain is dominated by their olfactory sense. And a dolphin has vestigial legs, having evolved from land dwelling animals that returned to the sea, but no land animals have blow holes or huge melons in their head devoted to echolocation. And dolphins can do everything I said in pitch black conditions. You seem to have forgotten that evolution over tens of millions of years changes things. Especially when a species has completely changed its environment, from entirely land-based to entirely water-based, like the dolphin. | |
| Oct 21, 2022 at 1:13 | comment | added | Justin Thyme the Second | @Amadeus Dolphins have eyes, and they have a visual cortex. Their minds still evolved around a brain designed for sight. | |
| Oct 20, 2022 at 21:23 | comment | added | Amadeus | @JustinThymetheSecond I don't think it is anthropomorphizing, when we say "visualize" we mean being able to tell where everything is, where boundaries between things are. The sonar of a dolphin can accomplish exactly the same goal in the dark; it can know exactly where things are, even find motionless prey under the sea floor. A newborn dolphin can identify its mother's clicks within hours. They can sense, with sonar, not just prey, but the type of prey, its speed and direction, and intercept it. Everything our vision does and more, even internal composition of things. Metaphorically the same. | |
| Aug 18, 2022 at 22:35 | comment | added | Justin Thyme the Second | @ cincodenada We talk about 'visualization' because the visual cortex is one of the most dominant features of our brain. We can not escape its dominance. Assigning our concepts of vitalization onto a species that can not visualize is just anthropomorphising in the extreme. | |
| Aug 18, 2022 at 19:08 | comment | added | cincodenada | We don't even have to venture into sci-fi to get a glimpse of how this might work. Check out this decade-old demo from MIT that tracks location of speakers in real time (and isolates their speech) using nothing but 1020 microphones as sensory input. By contrast, each of our eyes has more than 100 million rods - surely a being who uses sound as a primary sense would have a similar magnitude of sonic sensory inputs to work with. | |
| Aug 18, 2022 at 19:04 | comment | added | cincodenada | @JustinThymetheSecond Even our language is biased towards vision. We speak of our minds "visualizing" a thing even though we can do it with our eyes closed. A sound-based being could certainly form a mental conception of shapes like a sphere, they would just have a "sonic cortex" to do so instead. Things like shapes and location are physical realities, not artifacts of vision, and they will exist and be perceivable regardless of whether you're using sound or light to detect them. | |
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| Aug 16, 2022 at 14:50 | history | answered | Philipp | CC BY-SA 4.0 |