Timeline for Can I put a Biological Refrigerator inside an organism and use it to create a sub zero spray?
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| Jun 15, 2022 at 2:40 | vote | accept | Robert Robert | ||
| Jun 9, 2022 at 10:29 | history | edited | lupe | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jun 9, 2022 at 10:24 | comment | added | lupe | another random thought on this - my enzyme kinetics is only dimly remembered, but if you had an enzyme that catalysed the ammonium nitrate/water reaction, I think you'd get it to go colder - I think in the absence of a catalyst, it is self limiting because the colder it gets the less molecules can clear the activation energy threshold, and therefore fewer reactions occur. It'd still self limit with a catalyst, but maybe at considerably colder temperatures. Biology loves making catalysts for things, too :P | |
| Jun 9, 2022 at 10:20 | comment | added | lupe | and yeah, pumps are hard to protect from cold there -though I can conceive of a structure like the diaphragm, where you decouple the muscles from the thing doing the pumping, which would let you have your highly oxygenated, warm muscles without the heat | |
| Jun 9, 2022 at 10:14 | comment | added | lupe | I'd agree that the endothermic reaction would be tough - how cold are you looking for? Maybe something that evaporates super fast would work. I'm thinking that pressurizing a chamber would happen relatively slowly, with the creature able to redistribute or radiate the heat caused by the high pressure gas. So you'd end up with a reservoir of, say, body temperature nitrogen in a liquid state, which would cool rapidly on release. | |
| Jun 9, 2022 at 10:12 | comment | added | Robert Robert | In regard to protecting rest of the body from the cooling effects. I do know some structural ways to protect the tissues from the refrigerant...in everything except the pumps. Yeah those needing to be on a flexible, low thermal conductivity, high strength yet oxygenated structure kinda screws me. Thanks I would not have caught that without you. | |
| Jun 9, 2022 at 9:58 | comment | added | Robert Robert | First thanks for replying. I haven't yet found an endothermic reaction absorbs enough heat for my purposes. For the High pressure gas reservoir idea wouldn't I still need to cool it back down as pressurizing the gas would cause it to heat up? | |
| Jun 9, 2022 at 7:57 | history | answered | lupe | CC BY-SA 4.0 |