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Aug 20, 2015 at 1:07 comment added Monty Wild Well, to be more accurate, my sensei is not about simply incapacitating the other guy, but about how to discourage the other guy from being a bully, up to and including incapacitation if that's what it takes. There is the whole "Make sure you're on the right side of the law" thing too.
Aug 20, 2015 at 0:51 comment added Cort Ammon Even American boxing/kickboxing is sold as "improve your own life" these days. The only one I know of that elects to portray itself on the "here's how to kill people" side is Krav Maga, which many Krav Maga teachers consider to be a self-defense system, not a martial art. And, of course, there are those who teach Krav Maga from the more positive "this is a technique to help you keep doing things you like to do, like breathing" direction.
Aug 20, 2015 at 0:49 comment added Cort Ammon Just to throw data around to make myself appear more knowledgeable than I actually am, I've trained in a few arts (I'll star* them), though in no way proficient in any of them, and I've heard spiels from many others. I have heard a general rallying behind the position I claim from every school I have interacted with in: karate*, Tae Kwon Do*, Hapkido, Brazilian Jujitsu, Aikido, Kendo, Judo, Tai Chi*, Xing-yi, Bauguazhen, Shaolin kung-fu (many variants), Capoera, and even ninjitsu (though I have heard mixed opinions from ninjitsu sensei... some focus more on the harming side)
Aug 20, 2015 at 0:44 comment added Cort Ammon @MontyWild I suppose there is room for rogue opinions =) The phrasing I chose is the one sold in every martial arts studio I have elected to go to, but I suppose one can always be surprised. Usually doing harm to others is usually a method to your goals, but not the goal itself. Those whose goals are harm usually find themselves in the warlord path.
Aug 20, 2015 at 0:34 comment added Monty Wild Obviously our respective teachers have different philosophies, then. My sensei's attitude is obviously (to me) coloured by the fact that he's ex-army.
Aug 19, 2015 at 23:36 comment added Cort Ammon @MontyWild What I got from my training is it's not about "How do I kill the other guy?" it's "how do I live and accomplish my own life goals?" The latter may lead very rapidly to the former, but the latter should be the real goal. The difference is that the latter opens up the door to trainings which assist in the rest of your life, while the former will focus strongly on the best possible ways to kill people, even if the only lesson learned is another way to kill someone.
Aug 19, 2015 at 22:49 comment added Monty Wild "How do I kill the other guy?" is only unpopular in modern, civilised martial arts taught to civilians. Historically, when they were taught to soldiers, it was all about "How do I kill the other guy?". In addition, as a martial artist, my sensei is all about "How do you incapacitate the other guy - without getting on the wrong side of the law in the process."
Aug 19, 2015 at 0:17 history answered Cort Ammon CC BY-SA 3.0