Timeline for Overcoming the issues of caseless ammunition
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| Aug 8, 2021 at 0:40 | comment | added | Zeiss Ikon | Gyrojet had other problems -- poor accuracy (because it was still accelerating for 6-8 meters after leaving the barrel, and due to the slow barrel time by gun standards), difficulty clearing a misfire, and perceived (true or not) poor durability of the extremely lightweight launcher -- they've been reported as feeling like a toy in the hand. And any gun will function in space, as long as the steel parts are kept warm enough or previously cryo treated. | |
| Aug 7, 2021 at 20:20 | comment | added | DWKraus | You need to rethink you definitions of caseless. Have you considered gyrojet weapons? The case IS the projectile, super-lightweight, there's no recoil, it could be HE/fragmentation or guided, function in space easily - all it needs is engineering to work out the bugs, and you have a mini-missile launcher solving the same problems as caseless ammo. worldbuilding.stackexchange.com/questions/135142/… | |
| Aug 7, 2021 at 19:44 | answer | added | Therac | timeline score: 3 | |
| Aug 6, 2021 at 22:47 | comment | added | Austin Hemmelgarn | I would like to point out that the HK G11 had a whole slew of other issues aside from the caseless ammo, and had a rather inventive and complicated loading mechanism that hasn’t really been used before or since, so it’s not really a great example of the issues of caseless ammo. | |
| Aug 6, 2021 at 22:08 | history | edited | Mary | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Aug 6, 2021 at 20:48 | comment | added | John | look at the textron rifles from LSAT trails for modern caseless. | |
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| Aug 6, 2021 at 19:50 | answer | added | John | timeline score: 2 | |
| Aug 6, 2021 at 17:09 | comment | added | Dragongeek | Continued: that doesn't mean caseless ammo as a concept doesn't have fundamental problems though--notably the lack of brass shells which carry heat away from the receiver in a normal gun. In a caseless weapon, all that excess heat needs to be managed somehow, which means you need a gun designed to handle it. | |
| Aug 6, 2021 at 17:06 | comment | added | Dragongeek | All of the issues that you list are engineering/science problems, not fundamental issues with the concept. The reason caseless ammo has issues like poor sealing, fragility, bad environment resistance, etc, aren't because there's something wrong with caseless ammo, it's simply because our scientists and engineers simply aren't good enough to figure it out yet. Attempting to predict the future is generally...not a good idea, but I'd be willing to bet that our materials science technology will be advanced enough to get rid of all these problems within half a century at most. | |
| Aug 6, 2021 at 15:14 | answer | added | Nosajimiki | timeline score: 3 | |
| Aug 6, 2021 at 14:31 | comment | added | Jim Kenichi Works | Probably. It would be ideal but not necessary. | |
| Aug 6, 2021 at 14:31 | comment | added | John | have you looked at the modern caseless ammunition, like the one used in current LSAT military trails or the Voere VEC-91. | |
| Aug 6, 2021 at 14:27 | vote | accept | Jim Kenichi Works | ||
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| Aug 6, 2021 at 14:26 | comment | added | tuskiomi | Does the munition have to be propelled with combustion? | |
| Aug 6, 2021 at 14:25 | answer | added | JBH | timeline score: 10 | |
| Aug 6, 2021 at 14:23 | history | edited | Jim Kenichi Works | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Aug 6, 2021 at 13:55 | comment | added | Zeiss Ikon | Obturation isn't the problem it was a century and a half ago. Naval ship rifles are caseless (at least those bigger than 5 inch bore), and obturate well. Making propellant that stands up to rough handling and still burns instantly is well nigh impossible. | |
| Aug 6, 2021 at 13:51 | history | edited | Jim Kenichi Works | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Aug 6, 2021 at 13:19 | history | edited | Trish | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Aug 6, 2021 at 13:16 | vote | accept | Jim Kenichi Works | ||
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| Aug 6, 2021 at 13:15 | history | edited | Jim Kenichi Works | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Aug 6, 2021 at 13:15 | answer | added | Zeiss Ikon | timeline score: 2 | |
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| Aug 6, 2021 at 12:51 | history | asked | Jim Kenichi Works | CC BY-SA 4.0 |