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| Jan 9, 2019 at 16:12 | comment | added | Loduwijk | I did not say nobody thought John was the messiah. That is a related point but not the same. I have read my bible, many times. Perhaps you should read the accounts where it demonstrates John specifically claiming to be the one preparing the way for Jesus. What is this claim about no eye-witness accounts?!? This is yet another humongous, extraordinary claim. However, I will go reread it again (you cannot read it too many times) and report back. In the meantime, could you share any public material discussing your claims? I assume you are not the only one with your belief. | |
| Jan 9, 2019 at 12:07 | comment | added | Nagora | Read your Bible. The book ascribed to Luke is pretty clear about the rivalry and there is also a very suspicious reference in Acts to 12 followers of a different messiah. There are of course no eye-witness accounts (and none that even claim to be) about the living Jesus or John in the Bible, and since the books in the NT were written long after John died, the authors were free to say whatever they wanted. The fact that there was a long-standing church of John Christ in Ethiopia up until the 5th century makes it clear that someone thought he was the messiah despite supposed clear denials. | |
| Jan 8, 2019 at 20:49 | comment | added | Loduwijk | "The Gospels are the work of followers of Jesus Christ; they're not going to be very dependable about the rival sect of John Christ, are they?" Why not? You seem to be implying some very big things here, namely that they were competing, that John the Baptist did not tell people he was not the messiah, and that Jesus and John were rivals. This is an extraordinary claim which requires evidence. Please tell us where we can read more about this idea you are putting forth so that we can inform ourselves about it. | |
| Jan 8, 2019 at 12:52 | comment | added | Nagora | @aaron John's followers very definitely thought he was the messiah, a belief that lasted for hundreds of years afterwards. Almost everything Jesus was supposed to have done was believed to have been done first by John - the Bible specifically informs us that his believers even thought/claimed that he had been resurrected. The Gospels are the work of followers of Jesus Christ; they're not going to be very dependable about the rival sect of John Christ, are they? | |
| Jun 13, 2017 at 21:19 | comment | added | Loduwijk | An interesting point about John the Baptist, whom you mentioned: He specifically told people he was not the messiah and that he was not some other reincarnated prophet either. People thought he was, and he corrected them. | |
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| Jul 10, 2015 at 10:19 | history | answered | Nagora | CC BY-SA 3.0 |