Timeline for How would Muslims adapt to follow their prayer rituals in the loss of Earth?
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| Jan 15, 2021 at 21:37 | comment | added | Ángel | There may not be too many people building their own shrines with a fake Kabah, but surely there would be many con artists all around the galaxy selling pieces of the Kabah after the destruction of Mecca. Enough that all of them one upon the other would build a mountain (similarly to the number of Holy Nails sold on the Middle Ages...). | |
| Jan 15, 2021 at 20:20 | comment | added | Kaithar | I guess a better question would be, "If the physical location of the Kabah was going to be destroyed, would Allah send instruction to move it?" | |
| Jan 15, 2021 at 17:53 | comment | added | Ahmed Tawfik | I'd argue that there is no real value in the physical Kabaa (the cube) except for perhaps the black stone in one corner, but even then, it's more of a marker of the place to which Muslims must pray. Therefore, recovering its remains would be considered a non-Islamic practice (i.e. not obligated for Muslims to do), and to create an analogue on another planet would be blasphemous, as it would make as much sense as putting a physical marker in a location of no real importance and perhaps may even be considered a form of idolatry. | |
| Jan 15, 2021 at 14:53 | comment | added | anaximander | @Daron Because moving it after the Earth is destroyed is not for its protection, but to accomodate the people who must visit it on pilgrimage. This does not say anything about Allah's capabilities at all, but it does acknowledge that humans find it difficult to traverse the vacuum of space, which doesn't seem all that blasphemous to me (although I am not Muslim, so this is not authoritative). | |
| Jan 15, 2021 at 14:44 | comment | added | Daron | Given that it is blasphemous to move the Kabah when the Earth is under attack, why is it no longer blasphemous to move it after the Earth is destroyed? | |
| Jan 15, 2021 at 12:28 | comment | added | chasly - supports Monica | @anaximander - Fair enough. | |
| Jan 15, 2021 at 11:04 | comment | added | anaximander | @chasly-supportsMonica I was more responding to your comment of " 'the Kabah would NOT be removed from Mecca' I don't see the logic of this" and attempting to explain why the Kabah might not be moved in the event of alien attack, despite the apparent logic of relocating it to a safe and defensible place. | |
| Jan 15, 2021 at 10:58 | comment | added | chasly - supports Monica | @anaximander - I was commenting on Dario Quint's answer, not making my own suggestions. I agree with you. The holy object should be left where it is, whether floating on a molten Earth or in its own orbit around the Sun. | |
| Jan 15, 2021 at 10:48 | comment | added | anaximander | @chasly-supportsMonica I'm not Muslim, but the way I understand it, the belief is that Allah will protect the Kabah, and so moving it is unnecessary - and to move it for safekeeping would imply that they do not believe that Allah's will is sufficient to keep it safe where it is. To show doubt in one's god in this way would be unseemly at best, and to imply that humans can do a better job of protecting it than Allah could would likely be considered blasphemy. | |
| Jan 15, 2021 at 2:11 | comment | added | zedmelon | @DarioQuint I know very little about Islam (I'm not a religious person myself), but I found this answer fascinating! Thanks for contributing... I'm off to Wikipedia now. | |
| Jan 14, 2021 at 22:21 | comment | added | awsirkis | This makes sense to me. Once you get into interstellar distances, the difference between where France and Mecca would be (or indeed which part of orbit the Earth would have been in) comes down to a matter of microseconds | |
| Jan 14, 2021 at 20:31 | vote | accept | SKKennell | ||
| Jan 14, 2021 at 17:57 | comment | added | o0'. | This is awesome, because basically the search for the lost Kabah would become the modern search for the Holy Grail, in a different religion! | |
| Jan 13, 2021 at 23:49 | comment | added | Joshua | Debris field? More like gas cloud. To destroy the world is a very hard thing indeed as the energy involved to unbody it exceeds that to vaporize it by a few times. | |
| Jan 13, 2021 at 20:33 | comment | added | Vilx- | @DanielR.Collins - Hmm, ok, you have a point. | |
| Jan 13, 2021 at 20:07 | comment | added | Daniel R. Collins | @Vilx: Even though the history is that it's been damaged and rebuilt several times? Link. "The Black Stone and the Maqam Ibrahim are believed by Muslims to be the only remnant of the original structure made by Abraham as the remaining structure had to be demolished and rebuilt several times over history for its maintenance." But I think only DarioQuint can answer what they meant, and whether they think the history given there is true or false. | |
| Jan 13, 2021 at 17:30 | comment | added | Vilx- | @DanielR.Collins - I'm not a muslim so I can only speculate, but from what I read here I gather that the Kabah is so sacred and central to the religion that God would simply not allow for its destruction. If he did then... the implication would be that he is abandoning the whole faith and its followers and... basically all of humankind. And that's not something that God does. | |
| Jan 13, 2021 at 16:45 | comment | added | Daniel R. Collins | "The Kabah would most certainly not be destroyed, even if the earth was!" -- Very interesting. Can I ask what the reasoning is for this? | |
| Jan 13, 2021 at 16:22 | comment | added | chasly - supports Monica | "the Kabah would NOT be removed from Mecca" I don't see the logic of this. Surely it is the Kabah that imbues Mecca with holiness not the other way around (?). If the Kabah moves, why does its sacredness not move with it? Conversely, if it is found in orbit, shouldn't it be left there? Even for practical reasons it makes more sense. It's harder to land on and take off from a planet than to rendezvous with an orbiting object. | |
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| Jan 13, 2021 at 14:03 | history | answered | Dario Quint | CC BY-SA 4.0 |