Timeline for Naming parallel universes
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| Feb 24, 2020 at 20:52 | comment | added | Ventifacts and Yardangs | Your fix seems fairly realistic, which is to say, confusing for everyone involved :P | |
| Feb 24, 2020 at 19:56 | comment | added | arpanet101 | Ok check it out - lmk what you think. | |
| Feb 24, 2020 at 19:56 | history | edited | arpanet101 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Feb 24, 2020 at 19:44 | comment | added | arpanet101 |
... who believes they're looking through a portal that they made.. flip a coin... OH OK that's pretty funny lol. Imagine having the fate of your universe being determined by a coin flip. I'm going to edit my answer - lmk what you think.
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| Feb 24, 2020 at 19:40 | comment | added | Ventifacts and Yardangs | When you open a portal, there's no notion of which is the original. You open the portal that you made, and look through it to see a copy of yourself, who believes they're looking through a portal that they made. So you've got to decide which of the two of you will change your universe's name. One ends up as 0-2 and one as 0-2-0, as you said. Follow this train of logic to the end and you'll realize that this means that the universe that will be known as 0-2-0-0 believed itself to be 0 before your portal opened. | |
| Feb 24, 2020 at 19:39 | comment | added | arpanet101 | Also, you point out that this would change Earth 0. By this point are you saying that a creation of a portal in a parallel universe at some depth >=1 your universe will also create a portal in your universe? If so, why? You mentioned that the creation of a portal creates a copy in the sense that your origin and 'destination' universes are desynchronized. The way I thought of it was that even if a portal created in 0-2-0 would be reflected in 0, 0 and 0-2-0 are still fixed universes, with a self-propagating nature. So there wouldn't be a new duplicate 0, but 0 itself would change. | |
| Feb 24, 2020 at 19:37 | comment | added | arpanet101 |
Now, they're opening a new portal in 0-2. Once it activates, there are 2 copies of Earth 0-2, and only one can be called 0-2. I'm sorry if I'm being dim but why would there be 2 copies of 0-2? Wouldn't the creation of this new portal create an Earth 0-2-0, but leave Earth 0-2 alone?
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| Feb 24, 2020 at 19:33 | comment | added | Ventifacts and Yardangs | The problem is, what happens to what used to be Earth 0 on your side of the portal? Well, it's a copy now, so it has to rename itself based on how you reach it from the "real" Earth 0. So to get there, you have to go to 0-2-0 (that's you), then pass through the second portal (which you used to think of as the first portal) to 0-2-0-0. That's its new name: 0-2-0-0. So in one fell swoop, based on a decision made in an adjacent world, Earth 0 now finds itself as Earth 0-2-0-0. | |
| Feb 24, 2020 at 19:30 | comment | added | Ventifacts and Yardangs | Sorry, I messed up your starting-from-0 convention. Okay, clear the slate, I'll use different numbers. We're in Earth 0, which has 3 portals. Head through the third one to Earth 0-2. Now, they're opening a new portal in 0-2. Once it activates, there are 2 copies of Earth 0-2, and only one can be called 0-2. The other will have to call itself Earth 0-2-0 (since it's accessed from 0-2). After all, each person views themselves as the original. So they flip a coin and, bummer, you're the copy. You sigh and agree that your world is actually 0-2-0 now. | |
| Feb 24, 2020 at 19:23 | comment | added | arpanet101 | So if I'm understanding this correctly, you're saying that you start in Earth 1 (not in Earth 0 aka Earth Prime). This means that with respect to the root, you're in Earth 0-0 because we're counting from 0 onwards. Then you step through the second portal in Earth 1 to enter Earth 0-0-1. This means that in all the universes that exist so far there are 2 portals. The question this raises to me is that if Earth 0 also has 2 portals, does Earth 0-1 lead to Earth 0-0-1? This was the mess I already described in my answer. Can you please explain what you mean by a coin-flip? I don't understand it. | |
| Feb 24, 2020 at 19:13 | comment | added | Ventifacts and Yardangs | The major shortfall seems to be that if your name changes when a portal opens, it changes disastrously. Say you're in Earth 1-2 (as in, from Earth Null, you go through the first portal, then take the second portal of that world), which has one portal (the one leading back to Earth 1). But now someone opened the second portal in 1-2, and your coin came up tails, which means you're not the original (which gets to stay 1-2), you're the copy. Your new designation is 1-2-2, and poor Earth Null on your side of the portal is now 1-2-2-1-1. | |
| Feb 24, 2020 at 19:08 | comment | added | Ventifacts and Yardangs | Good idea! Happily, my intention was that no two portals can ever lead to the same universe. Each time a portal is activated, you just duplicate every universe. You never somehow get back to a universe you already had. I need to think about your path-name concept a bit more, but it seems super promising. | |
| Feb 24, 2020 at 18:51 | history | answered | arpanet101 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |