Timeline for If prey gave predators the corpses of members which had naturally died, would predators be able to subsist without killing the prey?
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| Sep 10, 2020 at 5:58 | comment | added | chiggsy | This would be a masterstroke by the prey, since they would be turning predators into scavengers. Why would they accept this? Imagine cows send you gristly geezerburgers every day, wormy and full of cancer. You then get to watch young tender prey get old and manky, before you get to eat it. Ridiculous! You can have my grisltlewich, sir! While they drop off the corpses, I'll swing by the nursery, for a spot of veal. Only scavengers want to eat corpses! | |
| Nov 19, 2019 at 20:04 | vote | accept | byusingoursite | ||
| Nov 19, 2019 at 11:46 | answer | added | IndigoFenix | timeline score: 1 | |
| Nov 19, 2019 at 6:35 | review | Close votes | |||
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| Nov 19, 2019 at 6:19 | comment | added | John | their social structure matters a lot less than their size, reproductive rates, and population ratio goals. | |
| Nov 19, 2019 at 1:26 | history | reopened |
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| Nov 18, 2019 at 20:06 | comment | added | byusingoursite | @We are Monica OK. Thanks for helping me! | |
| Nov 18, 2019 at 20:04 | comment | added | Escaped dental patient. | Sorry, but I have to say, the edit didn't help much, a little yes. Nice to know that the predators can eat something else too. Not voting to re-open yet. (From review) Look forward to future revisions of the question, or new questions. | |
| Nov 18, 2019 at 19:45 | review | Reopen votes | |||
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| Nov 18, 2019 at 19:26 | history | edited | byusingoursite | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Nov 18, 2019 at 12:23 | comment | added | Mindwin Remember Monica | I voted to close. DO NOT REOPEN UNTIL you address the rest of your worldbuilding. Are there other meat sources or those two species are the only two animals in your world? How technologically advanced are they? How sociologically (i.e. ethics studies and philosophy) advanced are they? | |
| Nov 18, 2019 at 12:22 | history | closed |
elemtilas Escaped dental patient. Arkenstein XII Slarty Mindwin Remember Monica |
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| Nov 18, 2019 at 10:09 | answer | added | internetofmine | timeline score: 0 | |
| Nov 18, 2019 at 5:03 | answer | added | IronEagle | timeline score: 2 | |
| Nov 18, 2019 at 2:03 | answer | added | Andrew F | timeline score: 1 | |
| Nov 17, 2019 at 23:16 | history | became hot network question | |||
| Nov 17, 2019 at 21:32 | comment | added | Mephistopheles | In Beastars, the carnivores' protein source were the unfertilized eggs of birds and occasionally insects. | |
| Nov 17, 2019 at 21:19 | answer | added | Guest | timeline score: 11 | |
| Nov 17, 2019 at 20:47 | comment | added | elemtilas | I would. At least for now --- you can always reselect it later! More importantly, and posterity notwithstanding, please address the various concerns that have put your query into the close queue! You've got a good basis here, but as asked, it is way too broad! | |
| Nov 17, 2019 at 20:39 | answer | added | bobtato | timeline score: 4 | |
| Nov 17, 2019 at 20:34 | comment | added | byusingoursite | @elemtilas OK. Should I deselect the answer? | |
| Nov 17, 2019 at 20:33 | comment | added | elemtilas | It's generally considered bad taste to select an answer as best within a period of two or three days of asking a question. This gives you a chance to not only see a number of different answers but also gives more people a chance to answer your question and gives you an opportunity to improve the poor quality of your question. Do take a look at the tour and help center so you can get a better idea of what's expected here in WB.SE! | |
| Nov 17, 2019 at 20:23 | answer | added | Daikyu Maryu | timeline score: 3 | |
| Nov 17, 2019 at 19:08 | vote | accept | byusingoursite | ||
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| Nov 17, 2019 at 19:08 | history | edited | byusingoursite | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Nov 17, 2019 at 17:51 | answer | added | Xplodotron | timeline score: 20 | |
| Nov 17, 2019 at 17:36 | comment | added | Xplodotron | I think the premise of intelligent predator hunting a single intelligent prey species is not a dealbreaker (but yes, will need some 'splainin). Strong preference for monodiet is not unhead of (koalas, panda, snail kite, snakes that only eat eggs etc). Consider the movie SKYLINE where aliens suck on human brains. Our brains are pretty special. Let's assume all the near-intelligent prey (e.g. dolphin, chimp, etc.) are eaten to extinction and now we're left with only one intelligent prey species that was smart enough to continue to outwit the predator species, at least enough to avoid extinction. | |
| Nov 17, 2019 at 16:47 | comment | added | Pelinore | For your scenario to have any meaning at all (for many, if not most) you may have to explain HOW you managed to end up with a world in which there are only two extant species of animal both intelligent, one an obligate carnivore & the other a herbivore : OR if there are any other non-intelligent animals at all why the carnivores can't eat them : OR if they have tech & science even beginning to approach ours why they don't make artificial supplements instead : until you do it's likely you'll continue to get a lot of negative responses.. | |
| Nov 17, 2019 at 16:32 | comment | added | Pelinore | I think this is the third question you've posted around this idea now isn't it? I think @Raditz_35 has nicely summarized the problem you have "I find it hard to believe that a species that can only survive on one other specific species and both happen to be intelligent - how did they end up like this? That's the part where your world will stop being believable" relevant to your specific question or not it's the source of a lot of pushback & negative comment you're getting to your actual questions on this idea : you should probably explain how such a situation arose in the first place | |
| Nov 17, 2019 at 16:20 | review | Close votes | |||
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| Nov 17, 2019 at 15:59 | comment | added | elemtilas | Is the prey species the predator species's ONLY source of food, or can the predators go off and hunt someone other than the prey species? VTC for being too broad: you've got too many variables at play here. You mention sports, clearly weapons and warcraft are factors at play. Please narrow your question to one single aspect. I'd like to answer, but there are too many possibilities to offer a succinct and direct answer. | |
| Nov 17, 2019 at 15:55 | comment | added | Raditz_35 | I find it hard to believe that a species that can only survive on one other specific species and both happen to be intelligent - how did they end up like this? That's the part where your world will stop being believable. I think that's the true question. If you just want a simple math problem to be answered, you should perhaps check out how much callories they need and how much there is in meat. That's googled in like 20 minutes | |
| Nov 17, 2019 at 15:54 | comment | added | user535733 | Why would the carnivores agree to this? During a mild and bountiful summer, fewer herbivores are likely to die - won't that result in famine for the carnoivores? Why would one side, under a great stress, keep the agreement? Seems like this only works if the herbivores have already won the hunting campaign and are subjugating for their own purposes the few surviving carnivores. "Honey, we get to live in the Herbivore's moat and eat the corpses of their prisoners and be their slaves." | |
| Nov 17, 2019 at 14:35 | comment | added | cegfault | I'd suggest editing your question with more details, as it's probably too broad right now. The population size could be one predator to one thousand prey (large predator, small prey), or vice versa, one prey to one thousand predators (ant-like predator, large animal prey) | |
| Nov 17, 2019 at 14:33 | comment | added | cegfault | If you're looking for population estimates we're going to need way more info. Are your predators 20 meters tall, and your prey 1m? How about the meat/fat content of the prey? How fast do they gestate / reproduce? Is the prey the only food source for the predators? I don't see any reason why this couldn't happen, so long as both species are sentient enough, but precise numbers could vary wildly. A human could feast off one cow for a long time, but if we had to eat squirrels we would have to kill a lot of squirrels. | |
| Nov 17, 2019 at 14:25 | history | asked | byusingoursite | CC BY-SA 4.0 |