Timeline for Unreliable Magic - Is it worth it?
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| Apr 1, 2019 at 16:41 | comment | added | Baldrickk | @CortAmmon my experience is from watching ambulance chasing TV shows mainly - but there is probably a short amount of time where you are still going to be trying to breath even after your heart stops, but not for very long. The various feedback loops in the brain will detect the increased co2 in the blood (from the brain's own respiration) and so they will feel really breathless. I believe that breathlessness is actually one of the first real symptoms. | |
| Apr 1, 2019 at 15:02 | comment | added | Cort Ammon | @Baldrickk Yep. I am not a definitive expert on CPR, but when I've asked the experts about this, they said that you just don't find people who are breathing but have no pulse. What I don't know is whether they were saying that because it is true, or that they were saying it to encourage me to start chest compressions without delay. | |
| Apr 1, 2019 at 9:28 | comment | added | Baldrickk | @SolomonUcko true, that's why you don't do the breathing if they already are - though if their heart is stopped, they probably won't be breathing long... You'll still want to be doing the compressions in that case. | |
| Mar 31, 2019 at 1:07 | comment | added | Solomon Ucko | @Baldrickk The one potential problem is if you try to do it even though it's not necessary, particularly if they are still breathing, as CPR could damage their lungs. | |
| Mar 28, 2019 at 16:22 | comment | added | Baldrickk | @Patrice yes, they did go through that, they also went over the stats of how many heart attack victims who were alive when the ambulance was called, are not when it arrives - without CPR, it's a tiny number. At this point, we may as well just compare "dead" to "maybe not dead" | |
| Mar 28, 2019 at 12:24 | comment | added | Patrice | @Baldrickk well if your course was well done, you understand that it's "a stopped heart someone kept mechanically beating to prevent the advancement of the clock of death and brain damage + broken ribs vs a stopped heart, brain and neurological damage as time goes by"..... so it's not really the same here, imho.... (but I still get your point :) ) | |
| Mar 28, 2019 at 9:21 | comment | added | Baldrickk | To add to this, I recently refreshed on CPR training. One of the things they repeat, to drive the point home is "Don't worry about breaking bones or hurting them. you can't make things worse" While you could argue that a stopped heart + broken ribs is worse than just the former, that is not the concern if they'll be dead either way. Better to try and keep them alive, instead of worrying about something so unimportant as an injury. | |
| Mar 28, 2019 at 6:31 | comment | added | vsz | @Tom : but there are many illnesses (and surgeries) where the chance to survive is less than 50%. In such cases the spell will improve the odds. | |
| Mar 28, 2019 at 5:28 | comment | added | Tom | true, but the chances aren't 50:50 while the question specifically states that both outcomes are equally likely. | |
| Mar 28, 2019 at 2:24 | history | answered | Cort Ammon | CC BY-SA 4.0 |