Timeline for Is it possible to perform surgery on your own spine?
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| Feb 8, 2019 at 18:26 | history | edited | Gryphon | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Nov 30, 2018 at 15:08 | comment | added | JeffUK | The biggest limitation of robotic surgery is whether or not the anaesthetic causes the character to lose control of her hands. It's definitely plausible if the chip can be inserted in the lower back, but if it's at the base of the neck, you may struggle to control the pain without some loss of dexterity | |
| Nov 28, 2018 at 5:53 | comment | added | anon | @JBH This answer suggests robotic surgery. I was commenting on the idea of robotic surgery. I'm not sure why that's so confusing to you. It's very simple. | |
| Nov 28, 2018 at 2:16 | comment | added | Cyn | The OP really does need to give more information. "The technology is futuristic" can mean anything. I can only answer based on what the OP says...and if one cut, dropping it in, and glue is possible in her/his world, then this is workable. If it's more like the surgery elemtilas detailed then, no, there's no way in hell. Probably we all should have closed the question until it was better outlined. So yeah, you're all right about modern-day reality, if the surgery is more than a simple chip install (like for pets). | |
| Nov 28, 2018 at 1:52 | comment | added | elemtilas | @Cyn -- With all due respect, the OP is not a surgeon and clearly has no clue what surgery in general, let alone spinal surgery, actually involves. A knife and "tweezers" is literally the first 35 seconds of the procedure. And no, you don't just "drop" an implant in with the tweezers. Your examples, while interesting, really don't answer the question. In both instances you cite the person in question had help. A kitchen c-section is possible. But notice that the lady passed out! That's not successful! A nurse had to come in and stitch her up and get her to hospital! Gross underestimation. | |
| Nov 27, 2018 at 23:51 | comment | added | Cyn | @JBH. I have answered the question. I said that a reasonably flexible person could reach behind her back and do the motions the OP stated as required. As long as there is a screen (or double mirrors, though they are harder). The OP stated outright that all you need is an incision, dropping the chip in with tweezers, then gluing yourself up. I'd add cleaning the site before and after. That is doable for anyone without shoulder problems, plus size, or severe unflexibility (I deal with all 3 and I could do the reaching part if it's cervical or lumbar, and maybe some parts of the thoracic). | |
| Nov 27, 2018 at 23:03 | comment | added | JBH | @NicHartley, huh? What's the point of commenting on an answer if it's outside the context of the OP? I'm not questioning the idea that, given enough circumstance, the operation could be performed.l I'm questioning whether or not this answer is relevant because it's outside the OP's scope. (It appears a LOT of people have made the same mistake you have. I feel bad for the OP. His question is basically been hijacked.) | |
| Nov 27, 2018 at 22:54 | comment | added | anon | @JBH I wasn't talking about OP's idea, I was talking about the answer I commented on. | |
| Nov 27, 2018 at 22:52 | comment | added | JBH | @NicHartley, Actually, I'm not conflating them at all. Read the OP's comment immediately above yours. He's not assuming robotics or automation. Indeed, other than replacing my set of double mirrors with a screen, he really is assuming arms behind back as I have been. None of the answers here answered his question from that perspective, and I still believe the answer is "no." | |
| Nov 27, 2018 at 18:05 | comment | added | anon | @JBH I think you're incorrectly conflating "robotics" with "automation". The robotics means that the arms holding the tools aren't physically your arms. Without automation, you're still controlling them directly. It's easy to imagine a haptic suit of some kind, maybe with a VR helmet, that allows the arms but doesn't have the automation. Indeed, I could see those happening in our world quite easily -- robots are much easier to sterilize than humans, their arms never shake from exhaustion, and they can have all the tools in their hands much quicker than us mere humans. | |
| Nov 27, 2018 at 15:25 | history | edited | kingledion | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Nov 27, 2018 at 4:40 | comment | added | Rose | reach behind your back and pretend to make an incision that is rather deep. focusing on what your doing while watching the screen so you do it properly. you have tweezers in the other and and you simple place the micro chip into your spine.( then here comes the futuristic tecnology) you use a glue gun like object that seals it up. | |
| Nov 27, 2018 at 4:37 | comment | added | Cyn | I'll leave it to the OP to state if robotic arms under the complete control of the surgeon aka patient are fair game. But I'll also say that, for a non-complicated insertion of a microchip, this could be done by a reasonably flexible person and a monitor (the question specifically says "she has all the surgery tools and a screen to watch what she is doing"). She's not operating on her spine, just near it. | |
| Nov 27, 2018 at 4:16 | comment | added | JBH | I still contend that the use of robotics negates the purpose of the question as-written (the OP did not specify the existence or non-existence of robotics). You bet, you can operate on any aspect of your body if you have robotics and a good camera (you wouldn't even have to lay down). If the OP edits his/her question to state that robotics exist in the environment, I'll return the downvote. | |
| Nov 27, 2018 at 4:08 | comment | added | Cyn | The person would still be performing the surgery. I edited my answer to show a picture. The robotic arm is just a tool, like a scalpel. But instead of controlling it with your arm and fingers, you control it with a computer (using your arm and fingers). | |
| Nov 27, 2018 at 4:07 | history | edited | Cyn | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Nov 27, 2018 at 4:00 | comment | added | JBH | I'll grant you robotic surgery... but that negates the purpose of the question. It's no longer the surgeon operating on his or her own back. | |
| Nov 27, 2018 at 3:58 | comment | added | Cyn | No, but I do have this (and this is modern day; in the OP's world, the tools would be higher tech): med.nyu.edu/robotic-surgery/physicians/what-robotic-surgery | |
| Nov 27, 2018 at 3:57 | comment | added | JBH | Do you have an example of anyone performing surgery on their own spine? It's comparatively easy when you don't have to reach behind you, use two mirrors, and operate with your hands upside down and backward. | |
| Nov 27, 2018 at 3:33 | vote | accept | Rose | ||
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| Nov 27, 2018 at 3:13 | history | answered | Cyn | CC BY-SA 4.0 |