Timeline for What mandates travel in an interstellar society?
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| Oct 3, 2018 at 12:37 | comment | added | John Locke | @Ash No problem, I enjoyed working on it. | |
| Oct 3, 2018 at 11:51 | comment | added | Ash | Thanks for putting in the effort for me, that last paragraph is gold. | |
| Oct 3, 2018 at 11:51 | vote | accept | Ash | ||
| Oct 3, 2018 at 0:10 | comment | added | John Locke | @Ash Sorry that took so long. I had to write down all my comments on paper, and then photocopy them to my computer so I could type them into the answer, but then I couldn't get the scanner to work... I ended up just copying and pasting into another tab with the editor open, but as you can imagine that took even longer... :) Anyway, I edited the question to include a short-term migration section. | |
| Oct 2, 2018 at 23:59 | history | edited | John Locke | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Added a section about short-term migrations
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| Oct 2, 2018 at 12:10 | comment | added | Ash | Okay now that's a really nice insight, please edit that into your answer I don't want to lose that to comment sweeping. Of course elements of society can do one or the other without the whole following suit, some will stay home because going anywhere takes too long and others will jump on to starships as if they were freight trains just because they can. | |
| Oct 1, 2018 at 18:51 | comment | added | John Locke | ...is traveling too. I see it sort of like a city- you interact with people for a very short time, and you will probably never see them again. If society changed in this way, lots of people would travel all the time. | |
| Oct 1, 2018 at 18:49 | comment | added | John Locke | @Ash In that case, I can see two possibilities: Either there are very few people who travel, either as a job, or out of necessity, or society becomes nomadic, not as a necessity, but just to experience other worlds. In the second case, society is remade into a world where almost everyone leaves everything they have known behind and explores the colonized worlds. People take up jobs wherever they go, staying only long enough to see the sights and pay for their next trip, and then they set off for another planet. It isn't important that people will never meet again because everyone else... | |
| Oct 1, 2018 at 18:26 | comment | added | Ash | Instantaneous for those on the ship approximately lightyears distance/4 years for the rest of the universe. | |
| Oct 1, 2018 at 18:22 | comment | added | John Locke | @Ash Doing some estimates of the numbers you provided in your question, 50 light years takes 5 days in the ship and 50 years outside of it. You are right, that is a very long amount of time. You said that jumps to nearby planets were instant, does that mean that the jumps are instant or close to instant for the people not on the ship? | |
| Oct 1, 2018 at 17:04 | comment | added | Ash | That works on a planet where commutes are measured in minutes/hours, it doesn't really track when commutes takes years though. Also without independent FTL communications how does one organise a face-to-face meeting when both parties have to travel for years and can't communicate in transit? | |
| Oct 1, 2018 at 16:14 | comment | added | John Locke | There will be increased living costs in the area due to use of space but better business there. That difference encourages commutes. | |
| Oct 1, 2018 at 16:13 | comment | added | John Locke | @Ash Without FTL communication, it's faster for people to meet in person or send a letter instead of an email or text. That alone means people have to meet somewhere. They have to choose a specific place. Then businesses move into the area to provide services for the people meeting there. A positive feedback cycle occurs. People start to meet in a place because of the services there. Now you have an area with more services than other areas, and a core and periphery model forms. Certain services are available because there is more business for them there. Now, opportunity is different. | |
| Oct 1, 2018 at 14:50 | comment | added | Ash | Mmm maybe but I can't see where there are going to be new, or possibly different would be the better term, opportunities on one space station or class x world than on another of the same lightyears away. More or less opportunities yes but I can't see different. | |
| Oct 1, 2018 at 14:36 | comment | added | John Locke | ...people will travel to different places because there are different opportunities and things happening in different places. | |
| Oct 1, 2018 at 14:35 | comment | added | John Locke | @Ash People would travel for the same reasons people travel today. Sometimes they have jobs based on travel services (shipping, uber, etc.). Sometimes it is cheaper to live somewhere and commute somewhere else for work. Sometimes people travel because of connections (going to see family, attending a sporting event, going to a meeting of an organization you are in). If interstellar travel is cheap and easy, I don't think you will have problems with travel volume. If your universe isn't homologous (all parts are exactly the same), and most universes are not homologous... | |
| Oct 1, 2018 at 12:14 | comment | added | Ash | You have described the reasons that someone might become a colonist without telling me anything new or useful about why people might travel as something other than permanent migrants. | |
| Sep 30, 2018 at 21:17 | history | answered | John Locke | CC BY-SA 4.0 |