Timeline for What mechanism can prevent super-healing heroes from accidentally budding?
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Jun 3, 2023 at 11:19 | comment | added | SBF | @JoeBloggs Lem had in robot tales I think the case when a robot ruler embodied every of his underlings with enough uranium so that any meeting of more than two would lead to a nuclear blast. That way he wanted to protect himself from revolutions | |
Jul 26, 2018 at 19:14 | comment | added | Eric Brown - Cal | Quantum Quorum sensing, the cells both sense they they dont' have a quorum and that another cluster of cells does.. The biggest fragments always regrows. | |
Jul 25, 2018 at 9:02 | vote | accept | Joe Bloggs | ||
Jul 24, 2018 at 15:14 | comment | added | Cort Ammon | @Joshua Yes, there will be limits. As a lower bound, you have to encode all of the information you are interested in preserving in some way. If that medium is disrupted (such as being turned into a ball of high energy plasma vapors), the information will be lost. Going much further will oblige one to cross the line into magic. I could give some gobbledygook about quantum entanglement and pilot waves to try to work around it, but the result would just be science-y sounding magic. | |
Jul 24, 2018 at 15:03 | comment | added | Joshua | In which case I can kill superhero by disintegrate. | |
Jul 23, 2018 at 15:06 | comment | added | theGarz | @CortAmmon: actually there's no mathematical chance to have multiple copy and yes, there's indeed the chance that the trauma that cut the superhero in parts could also definitely kill the super-healing being. After all it's a super healing hero, not an immortal god. Anyway, +1 for the nice quorum sensing idea. | |
Jul 23, 2018 at 14:58 | comment | added | Cort Ammon | @theGarz Something like that would definitely decrease the probability of accidentally forming a second superhero. However, there's always a possibility that the old lead cell doesn't make it, in which case you'd have two "new" leaders. So you'd still need to make sure your algorithm has safeguards in place for that case. | |
Jul 23, 2018 at 13:11 | comment | added | dotancohen | Apparently the yeast and I have something in common. If there's nobody around to have sex with, I'll do what needs to be done by myself as well. | |
Jul 23, 2018 at 10:06 | comment | added | theGarz | @tobek: even if blown to smithereens only one simple condition could be added to allow a full regrowth and not multiple bodies: the quorum check should be done with different thresholds if the lead cell has becomed lead for the first time. The "old" lead cell will start a regrowth with a -for instance- 10% original mass check, the other "new" ones should perform a >90% original mass check. | |
Jul 23, 2018 at 3:18 | comment | added | timuzhti | @JoeBloggs Sounds a bit like a carbosilicate amorph from Schlock Mercenary, except each piece only contains some of the memories, not all of them. As a bonus, the main characters regularly get blown to bits, so there are plenty of examples of how regeneration works, both innate (by the amorph) and with the aid of technology (rest of the crew). | |
Jul 22, 2018 at 18:24 | comment | added | JoshRagem | So you can redirect your smithereens super hero by moping then into a gooey puddle until there is enough to respawn | |
Jul 22, 2018 at 16:39 | comment | added | R.. GitHub STOP HELPING ICE | There can be only one! | |
Jul 22, 2018 at 7:37 | comment | added | Joe Bloggs | @CortAmmon: That is the kind of brain twisting book I’d read. Each city has its own super powered protector, none of whom can ever meet lest they start killing each other off. Throw in some Handlers dedicated to making sure no superheroes meet, a few comedy sidekicks. Boom. | |
Jul 22, 2018 at 5:56 | comment | added | Cort Ammon | @JohnDvorak As long as they never communicate. If you're making a super-hero creature like this, I can only hope you'd design it to try to communicate via any means possible, searching for more of itself. Of course, if you blew the superhero to tiny bits (in thy mercy), loaded each piece up into a rocket, you might be able to pull off some Dune-esque political intrigue, putting one superhero on every planet in the galaxy! | |
Jul 22, 2018 at 3:48 | comment | added | John Dvorak | @CortAmmon now you can have a super-cheap army as long as you don't let the dreadpeels touch each other. | |
Jul 22, 2018 at 3:06 | comment | added | Cort Ammon | @tobek True. A lot has to be said about invulnerability to figure out how far one has to go (I'm a big fan of using multi-megaton nuclear bombs to make sure those invulnerable people don't stay invulnerable). If you need to, the Raft algorithms could provide a solution. Let the individual cells replicate as though they had qourum, but once they find a second regenerated superhero, they undergo voting to figure out which one keeps the skill. Too much beyond that and we start having to get into magic and defining what a superhero "is," especially after one of those pesky nukes. | |
Jul 22, 2018 at 1:23 | comment | added | tobek | A lot of good stuff in this answer, but wouldn't this result in the failure of the superhero to recover from being blown to smithereens? Each individual piece would fail to reach quorum, and so none would regrow. But in the superheros described, one (and exactly one) tiny remaining piece can regrow into the full being again. | |
Jul 21, 2018 at 22:30 | history | edited | Secespitus | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Jul 21, 2018 at 22:12 | history | answered | Cort Ammon | CC BY-SA 4.0 |