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| Jul 21, 2023 at 20:11 | comment | added | Robert Rapplean | @Alexander, I think we both accept that humans are resilient and creative enough to figure their way around any challenge, eventually. My position is that the records wouldn't survive through the collapse and rebuilding process. The REASON for getting to the Moon wouldn't survive. | |
| Jul 21, 2023 at 17:15 | comment | added | Alexander | @Robert Rapplean we don't have a time limit here, do we? So, it would take generations if it has to be. The people would definitely not die out (they are not "suddenly blind"), unless their environment is hostile. To me, the question is only whether they would be able to keep their knowledge though the "adaptation period". | |
| Jul 20, 2023 at 22:53 | comment | added | Headcrab | To better focus on the spaceship building, it may be better to revise the question, taking all the farming, starving, etc. out of the picture. Let's say some kind of semi-sentient hive drones feed you, protect you, keep you out of harm's way, but when it comes to science and industry, you're on your own. Otherwise it is indeed a question of their basic survival rather than their hypothetical space voyage. | |
| Jul 19, 2023 at 18:00 | comment | added | Robert Rapplean | @Alexander, Elemtilas is right. Humans are very poorly suited to survival without their eyes. They would need to re-invent an entire technology stack around the other senses first, and that would take generations. Medicine, all by itself, would be nearly impossible with our current toolset. Without plot armor, your people would die. | |
| Jul 23, 2018 at 3:30 | comment | added | cms | You don’t need viewports if you are blind ;) | |
| Jul 21, 2018 at 16:02 | comment | added | elemtilas | Farms are typically segregated by fencing. The basic issues stand. There are simply too many unrealistic expectations and too many insurmountable hurdles to deal with. Frankly I think these 10000 blind zoo animals would be better off applying to the Intergalactic Court of Sophont Rights and sue the britches off these alien tricksters, compel them to transfer all their technology and store of learning to Earth and go home in a more conventional manner! | |
| Jul 21, 2018 at 3:34 | comment | added | Alexander | If we really want to have a cow farm, the pasture has to be fenced (no need to stumble around the countryside), and cows will be located by dogs (animals will be sighted). | |
| Jul 21, 2018 at 1:39 | comment | added | elemtilas | It's not just knowing how to tend cows and sheep. You have to be able to see the pastures and where your flocks and herds are when not in the barn. If you're blind and stumbling around the countryside trying to locate your animals, you're very likely to get hurt. You'll either die out away from home or people stumbling about trying to rescue you will get hurt. Basically what I'm getting at is that your premise is so stacked against these people that they really have no chance to win home! I mean, we're talking about tending cows and haven't gotten close to putting a rocket ship together yet! | |
| Jul 21, 2018 at 0:26 | comment | added | Alexander | I personally know how to grow potatoes :) And I think it's very likely that among 10000 people there will be some who know how to tend to cows and sheep. Technical resource pyramid is a different (but I agree, absolutely valid) question. | |
| Jul 20, 2018 at 23:35 | comment | added | elemtilas | Well, the question specifies that the colony has cows and sheep. I wonder: how familiar are you with farming operations in general? I also wonder if you realise how broad the technical & resource pyramid has to be in order to support the construction of a rocket. Yes: I am pessimistic about the ability of blind people to do what you're asking! This wasn't part of the question, but if it's any consolation, my answer would be every bit as pessimistic for 10000 random sighted people as well. | |
| Jul 20, 2018 at 6:32 | comment | added | Alexander | I see, you are very pessimistic about ability blind people to farm. There are indeed problems with raising regular grain (like wheat) and husbandry, but there are possible solutions to them by making compromises with productivity. Vegetable farming is mostly free of such issues. Blind people can raise potatoes and corn, all without tractors, and provide well for themselves. | |
| Jul 19, 2018 at 21:46 | comment | added | elemtilas | Okay. They'll starve within eleven years. | |
| Jul 19, 2018 at 21:07 | comment | added | Alexander | Thanks for your answer, however, the colony has "supply of food and basic necessities sufficient for 10 years". | |
| Jul 19, 2018 at 21:02 | history | answered | elemtilas | CC BY-SA 4.0 |