Timeline for How would a society ban artificial intelligence without banning computers? [closed]
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Jul 9, 2018 at 2:38 | comment | added | pojo-guy | From the perspective of someone in the industry, artificial intelligence is a moving target. In the early days, a fancy "switch" statement was sufficient to count as an expert system. Then it was heuristics for a while. More recently, it's various flavors of neural networks. At this point, machines still don't have volition, although they can find solutions to questions they were never asked as a side effect of solving particular problems. | |
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Jul 8, 2018 at 13:10 | comment | added | Ash | Be very sure you are pitching the right kind and level of A.I. "strong A.I." is basically a human on a hard drive; there are far more powerful artificial beings on that spectrum. | |
Jul 8, 2018 at 13:08 | answer | added | Ash | timeline score: 4 | |
Jul 8, 2018 at 13:06 | answer | added | VBartilucci | timeline score: 2 | |
Jul 8, 2018 at 13:03 | answer | added | Paul Johnson | timeline score: -1 | |
Jul 8, 2018 at 12:44 | answer | added | Daron | timeline score: 0 | |
Jul 8, 2018 at 12:42 | comment | added | user50663 | They were using computers in military tactics, and even to tell them how to distribute resources, and what they should make. They were basically using calculators to decide what they should do. Even allowing the calculators to directly control military hardware. Obviously, this ended in disaster. And of course with the kinds of stuff going on online today (like Russia meddling in foreign elections), I imagine people in the future would be a lot more wary of the internet than we are now. | |
Jul 8, 2018 at 12:40 | comment | added | user50663 | The thing that happened was more about factory robots multiplying out of control than anything else. They caused huge harm to the environment, since of course climate doesn't really matter to them (they don't need food or oxygen). The machines would even level cities just for resources. I don't really see them as truly intelligent, but would mindlessly do things that may or may not benefit humans. Humans just gave computers too much agency. I mean, they were relying on them for scientific research, and even to make some military decisions. | |
Jul 8, 2018 at 12:37 | comment | added | user50663 | Well I admit, part of the reason for the ban is also to avoid 'technological unemployment'. So really, any form of physical automation is banned. They don't want machines that can physically affect the world in anyway, or make decisions on their own. Personally, I don't think the 'uprising' was really a 'revolt', but more just military robots that went awry. They had machines running their entire military-industrial complex, even allowing it to make decisions on its own. The computer ended up doing things that wasn't good for organic life. Also, it had the ability to manufacture more of itself | |
Jul 8, 2018 at 12:34 | comment | added | a4android | Computers are now effectively ubiquitous & we don't have AI in the fully self-aware mode. Certainly not at the robot apocalypse level. If true AI was banned, it would have been running on computers or networks vastly more powerful than anything we have today. Your retro-future world would look much more computerized than yours. So there'd be lots of computers everywhere. But no AI or sapient robots. | |
Jul 8, 2018 at 12:27 | comment | added | Ash | For an interesting and possibly enlightening treatment of the subject see if you can get hold of a copy of Antibodies by Charles Stross, it's in the Toast collection. This is also pretty much the history of the Dune series by the way. | |
Jul 8, 2018 at 12:26 | comment | added | AlexP | A.I. means many things for people who are not informaticians. Please clarify what you mean by A.I., because there is an entire world between A.I. in general and "robot uprising". You are overestimating the computing power needed for practical A.I. One of the first successful expert systems was the legendary XCON, which ran on computers a hundred times slower than the cheapest entry level Atom processor you could buy today. We still don't know whether it is possible to make a general-purpose self-aware A.I., and we are nowhere near being able to make one. | |
Jul 8, 2018 at 12:14 | comment | added | AlexP | What is a "society"? A city, a country, a loose confederation of multiple countries such as the E.U., "the West", all of makind? For a city or a country or even the entire E.U. it won't work -- other cities or countries which don't voluntarily limit their technology will crush them economically, and eventually conquer them. It is quite obvious that such a stupid idea can survive only if all mankind agrees to be bound by the silly rules; but then you have a much more difficult problem: how to unite all mankind under the iron heel of a dictator. | |
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