Timeline for Does this political system (for the Asteroid Belt) make sense?
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| Jun 9, 2018 at 12:37 | vote | accept | Celestial Dragon Emperor | ||
| Jun 9, 2018 at 4:45 | comment | added | elemtilas | Exactly. Also, use hacked transponder codes. Basic piracy techniques. (By "change the paint" I'd include "paint it to look like an asteroid" or "paint it so tracking devices have trouble locking on it" as well.) Also, as everybody seems to be saying, space is BIIIIG! You've got to know where to look to even begin finding the pirates. You've got to have technology that can even find a (presumably) small vessel and distinguish it from the others in the affray. And the human staff to separate wheat from chaff. At interplanetary distances. In the middle of the Asteroid Belt. | |
| Jun 8, 2018 at 20:34 | comment | added | Celestial Dragon Emperor | Modify the ship a bit, change the paint, get a voice modification, comit piracy, then repeat. | |
| Jun 8, 2018 at 20:08 | comment | added | pluckedkiwi | @elemtilas No, you cannot intercept the pirate (again space is really big and things are far away), but there is no need to. Everyone can see them, easily knows who they are and where they are going. You can outrun the law, but you cannot outrun their radio. No they cannot stop a pirate from killing someone and taking their stuff, but now what? Everyone knows what they did and will be keeping a close eye on them until captured or killed. | |
| Jun 8, 2018 at 20:01 | comment | added | Celestial Dragon Emperor | @elemtilas I'm talking about the movie franchise Aliens, my bad if you got confused. In the Aliens franchise the colonial marshals are a thing. | |
| Jun 8, 2018 at 19:55 | comment | added | elemtilas | @CelestialDragonEmperor So, there are some groups of aliens involved in your scenario? How do they fit in? | |
| Jun 8, 2018 at 19:51 | comment | added | Celestial Dragon Emperor | @elemtilas in aliens the colonies and space stations are policed by the Colonial Marshals who are a mix of private security and hired thugs that wear police badges | |
| Jun 8, 2018 at 19:50 | comment | added | elemtilas | A lot will also depend on their tracking capabilities and how robust the tracking networks are. | |
| Jun 8, 2018 at 19:49 | comment | added | elemtilas | @pluckedkiwi Visible, yes. "On the radar", maybe not! A lot will depend on what kind of propulsion ships have, how fast they can go and how direct a route they can plot to a destination. Just because you can see pirate ships approaching a fleet on course between Mars and Ceres doesn't mean you can despatch interceptors from Earth or Ceres in time to intervene. I'd also suspect that much piracy will occur within the Belt itself. Much more difficult to track vessels and much easier to hide. | |
| Jun 8, 2018 at 19:47 | comment | added | Celestial Dragon Emperor | I assume their is some way to get the jump on somebody in space like possibly hiding in wreckage or behind a asteroid and then boosting as fast as possible. | |
| Jun 8, 2018 at 19:37 | comment | added | pluckedkiwi | @CelestialDragonEmperor "Piracy in shipping lanes" isn't a thing in space. It is fun to say "17th century buccaneering but in space!", but in space everything is visible, everything is watched, everything is easily tracked, space is really really big and things are far far away but pretty much always in plain sight the whole way there and back. | |
| Jun 8, 2018 at 19:35 | comment | added | elemtilas | @CelestialDragonEmperor Agreed, it does make total sense for the central government to do that. In fact, I would posit that a wise Hegemon will not only use larger Clans as its muscle, but will probably also play the Clans against one another. Especially around contract renegotiation time. I don't know how colonial marshals or alien franchises fit into your story. You didn't mention anything or anyone coming from beyond the Solar System. That of course could change things immensely! | |
| Jun 8, 2018 at 19:31 | comment | added | elemtilas | @PinionMinion good points, though maybe not "a Clan itself", especially if the Clans enjoy some level of Hegemonic legitimacy. A criminal Clan would probably be seen as the worst kind of competition and be ostracised at the least. Perhaps the start of an internecine dust up. | |
| Jun 8, 2018 at 18:19 | comment | added | Celestial Dragon Emperor | Yeah some clams could make a living off of criminal enterprises. As long as it doesn't get to large, dangerous, or make a scene the Hegemony usually just ignores it. | |
| Jun 8, 2018 at 18:02 | comment | added | Pinion Minion | I kinda assumed that criminal activities would either be sanctioned by Clans (either "we'll look the other way" or "do this and don't ask questions") or done is the usual sneaky, anarchic fashion. As Clans are the controlling power, they can ignore or enforce laws as they see fit. And if a criminal organization is powerful enough to order a Clan, it might as well be a Clan itself. | |
| Jun 8, 2018 at 17:41 | comment | added | Celestial Dragon Emperor | Thanks for the answer! Let me dress two things. So it does make total sans for the Hegemony to use larger clans to enforce order for this I think someyhing like the colonial marshals from the aliens franchise would work. Now for the crime angle: due to size piracy, smuggling, and other either illegal or frowned upon acts/businesses would take place. Usually the Hegemony only deals with the major threats. (Ex: pirate group that has repetitively attacked shiping lanes) Some of the stuff like drugs or opioids would be illegal on the more "civilized colonies" but is ignored in the belt | |
| Jun 8, 2018 at 17:20 | history | answered | elemtilas | CC BY-SA 4.0 |